Motorcraft FL-816

[Linctex]

Well I guess Scotty Kilmer was watching this thread, and made this video to explain it clearly for everyone:

 

[ZeeOSix]

^^^ Now everyone will think filters aren't important because Scotty said they are.

 

[Linctex]

^^^ Now everyone will think filters aren't important because Scotty said they are.

Actually, he basically says "you get what you pay for, so buy the expensive filters".

 

[hondaDIY]

Well I put the Motorcraft filter on last weekend. Engine immediately seized and then proceeded to catch on fire. Guess I need to buy Royal Purple filters in the future for my 4k oil changes on my honda.

 

[kschachn]

Well I put the Motorcraft filter on last weekend. Engine immediately seized and then proceeded to catch on fire. Guess I need to buy Royal Purple filters in the future for my 4k oil changes on my honda.

Somehow I thought this is kind of how this thread would conclude.

 

[MrQuackers]

Actually, he basically says "you get what you pay for, so buy the expensive filters".

Yep, a lot of members poo poo Scotty.

SKDS

 

[bullwinkle]

The MC FL-816 filters would be fine for up to 7500, not sure I would push them too far. I bet ADBV action will be the first to go on them. Purolator nitrile ones don't seem to hold up too well, I've seen them harden & fail inside of 2500 miles on Quaker State oil filters before.

 

[Linctex]

I bet ADBV action will be the first to go on them. Purolator nitrile ones don't seem to hold up too well, I've seen them harden ...

I don't think it matters much in applications like this where the filter threads/base are mounted UP

 

[zeky]

Well I put the Motorcraft filter on last weekend. Engine immediately seized and then proceeded to catch on fire. Guess I need to buy Royal Purple filters in the future for my 4k oil changes on my honda.

Be sure and add oil, next time.

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

Calling @ZeeOSix.

He's busy at the moment. He's trying to figure out what he's going to do with all of the MC FL-820S oil filters he ordered!

 

[ZeeOSix]

He's busy at the moment. He's trying to figure out what he's going to do with all of the MC FL-820S oil filters he ordered!

Target practice ...

 

[kschachn]

Target practice ...

How will you know if you hit it?

 

[ZeeOSix]

How will you know if you hit it?

When it goes skipping across the ground.

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

How will you know if you hit it?

He can paint them FRAM Orange.

 

[bbhero]

Target practice ...

Pull !!!!!

Use them like shooting clays.....

 

[hondaDIY]

So is the motorcraft fl 816 the same as purolator l41610, or slightly different? purolator looks taller

 

[ZeeOSix]

So is the motorcraft fl 816 the same as purolator l41610, or slightly different? purolator looks taller

FL-822 is equivalent to the Purolator 14610 or Fram 7317.

 

[hondaDIY]

The Fram has a silicone ADBV though, does the Purolator use synthetic blend media like motocraft?

 

[wpod]

Using an "approved" and known-quality filter (standard Motorcraft, Supertech, Fram PH series, etc. etc. etc.) is perfectly normal.....
and it is NOT "treating my vehicle like crap" by using a $4 filter.
These are approved filters that meet manufacturers specifications.
Some people's heads almost exploded (back in the day) when they found out their beloved Honda oil filter was a Fram PH filter in different paint & with a Honda part number. Generally, a Honda will last well over 200,000 miles running what is essentially the cheapest Fram made.... 94% at 30 microns or something or another? Would it go 400,000 miles if it had Fram XG or Amsoil filters all of it's life?
Maybe....
but that is data that is very difficult to obtain, due to the variable that occur in an uncontrolled test environment (the average Joe car owner who is commuting daily, 51-52 weeks a year)


I can respect that.
You have been pretty good about being factual in past discussions, but even now your emotions sway your objectivity just ever so slightly - - but still noticeable.
By the way, have you got any recent particle count data you can share? *Not* from other studies - I mean from your own personal vehicles.

The original poster asks:

The simplest answer is "Yes" - to which i would add "Don't worry about buying the best filter available... your car will be just fine with basically any approved oil filter that is considered to generally be of good quality". If he comes back and starts asking about particle counts and ISO tests, then that's fine.

We must obey the marketing.

 

[Will4]

Multiple tests show no "real world" results in engine longevity between the cheapest oil filters and the most expensive premium filters.

Run your filters with confidence - your '09 Honda Accord will be just fine.

Multiple tests have shown better oil filtration will extend engine life. Also premium motor oil will extend engine life, provided it is changed when it gets dirty.
Installing a bypass filter will extend engine life and the life of the oil. From the tests I have seen, and my own experience in the last 42 years, the life of the engine and each oil change can be extended by approx. 50 percent, along with other good maintenance.
Oil filters are usually made in two or three tiers. Fram, Napa and Purolator have three tiers. Carquest, Wix, STP, and Microgard have two tiers. And there are some such as Royal Purple and Mobile One, who only make one quality level.
I have found that some of the 98-99% efficiency filters can get restrictive if run too long. It only makes sense to me, because the material is "tighter" to start with. So without a bypass filter, the 98-99% efficient filters and short oil change intervals will result in the longest engine life (with no racing or extended high RPM). An anti wear additive in the oil (use sparingly) and top cylinder oil in the gasoline, can also help extend engine life. Find your happy place.