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I hear this all the time, so what's the latest and greatest suspension part if moog isn't very good anymore? Like wheel bearings, ball joints, tie rods etc?
Moog isnt as good as they used to be
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The Moog ball joints I put in our fj were made in USA. So far so good 3+ years later. I do grease them often.
I got a pair of new Moog Springs 2 years ago for my 2008 Pathfinder, one of which had paint already peeling off in the box.
The shop thought they even looked used.
But we could not hold up the intallation.
I made sure to spray plenty of fluid film on the spot with the peeling paint but tis not easy to get to.
The shop thought they even looked used.
But we could not hold up the intallation.
I made sure to spray plenty of fluid film on the spot with the peeling paint but tis not easy to get to.
Do they make different levels? I priced some at Rock Auto and I think they had different prices and part numbers.
They've been garbage for several years now
OEM is your best bet if its still available.
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I had a tie rod end warrantied
No, moog is moog. They're called problem solvers lol
Moog makes two levels of quality.
On Moog's website it shows (some where) the lower level is made in China to compete with the 'cheap
competition.
I believe the Chinese junk has a couple 'letters' added to the part number.
If a person wanted Moog, do yourself a favor and find (or call Moog) to learn about the upper and lower quality parts.
I agree- they used to make a upgraded idler arm for the chev K1500, the ones I got were unimpressive, preworn in? Bearings, too many good names out there to screw around with rebox. Moog lost their shine with me many years ago.
Lower grade Moog line is the "RK" series with a 3 yr. warranty while premium grade Moog is the "CK" series known as "Problem Solver" parts with a lifetime warranty.
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I agree.. what is as good as it used to be?
Went to buy sway bar links made by moog for my tundra. Bought them, brought them home.. they looked like absolute GARBAGE. half of one side was welded, other link at the same spot was 3/4 of way welded with the ****tiest weld I have ever seen. My point is they were inconsistently welded so you can't say it's supposed to be like that. It looked like the cheapest pot metal I've ever seen. Worst than my 150 dollar airsoft gun. Returned them, purchased "altrom" links from napa. I guess altrom is just rebranded oem parts from various manufacturers I still don't know for sure though. They were extremely high quality, pure steel, very straightforward nice looking links. Moogs are such a gimmick with their grease zerks
This is all true
However my experience with their premium "Problem Solver" line isn't much better
Please expand on said displeasure...This is all true
However my experience with their premium "Problem Solver" line isn't much better
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That lifetime warranty only includes the parts though I believe
I liked to pair the Moog Endlinks with Eibach sway bar in my Civic, but I keep seeing people having lower satisfaction now. Like to put in harder bushings to stiffen the Accord up more but I got other things like another CVT service,oil change, coolant drain/fill and tyre rotation.
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Problem Solver ball joints are excellent.
My dad had a 2013 Chrysler 300
We got 18-24 months out of the OE Chrysler front sway bar bushings
The "Thermoplastic" hard as a rock Moog units would last about 90 days
I got real good at changing them
My neighbor has a 2005 Toyota RAV4
When I did front struts, out of posterity I did both front sway bar links because it seemed the right thing to do
I should've kept the factory Toyota ones, the Moog boots self destructed in less than 12 months, and they've corroded worse in 2 years than the factory units did in 12
My friend had a 1994 Ford Escort
I ordered front sway bar links, I got a stud with no threading and a nut with no threads
I've personally observed less than ideal machining finish on some wheel hub/bearing assemblies, when competitive brands looked higher quality
I now only use them as a last resort, if I'm in a bind for time or money
My shop friends have given me anecdotal experiences that mirror my personal ones
Front ball joints causing sticking steering/poor return to center on GMT800 trucks
CD3 platform cars with EPAS problems shortly after installing Moog LCAs/TREs (something about the ball/socket joints being too stiff causing drag and the rack didn't like it?)
Much like Raybestos, Standard Motor, and Felpro, Moog seems like a company trading on its past reputation
But then I'm younger, and I don't work in a shop, so my timeline of experiences is understandably shorter than others here
Maybe you've gotten good parts from them, but I've gotten far too many bad
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