Moog isnt as good as they used to be

[spasm3]

When you install these bushings, are you using a high quality synthetic or high temp grease on the contact surface? Or even at least something like some white lithium grease? Because if you are not, you can 100% expect to see early failures in that type of bushing 100% of the time regardless of the quality of the part. They NEED to be greased, and looking at your pics I'd have a very hard time believing they ever were.

I used a silicon paste grease.

The pic was of the old bushing, and before I greased the new one. Didn't want my greasy fingers on the phone.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Well, clearly not that reason then. I'm interested though in why you went with OEM endlinks from the stealership but opted for Moog bushings? Why didn't you just get the factory bushings too if you were going to get the factory end links anyhow?

 

[John105]

I agree.. what is as good as it used to be?

Everything seems to be cyclical. When I got out of college there was a huge push to quality and customer service.

Today, when customer service is good, we often feel compelled to mention it since it’s rare.

Think about what Toyota did in the 80’s, introducing Lexus in 1989. Look at Lexus products today, very mediocre, overpriced, and extremely expensive to maintain. Pinkie light steering. And since we live in a CR based society, as long as they are applauded for $600 power window switches and $130 brake sensor wires they seem to nary have an incentive to change

 

[John105]

We used their sway bar bushings for GM and nothing to say good or bad….

 

[2strokeNorthstar]

Today I just replaced again sway bar bushings on the Elantra. I replaced them in April with Moog bushings and Hyundai OEM endlinks.

Not even 5 months later the sway bar is thumping. Endlinks are fine.
Replaced the moog bushings with Hyundai OEM bushings.

I'd say Moog is not at all what they used to be.

Look how wallowed out they are at 5 months, maybe 5k miles.

Note, the Moog bushings are split on the bottom, the OEM are split on the side.

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Same experience with the Moog sway bar bushings. I could believe how fast they expanded to the point I could look through the gap. Not even worth my time.

 

[Johnson Johnson]

Moog is garbage IMO. Vectra C they lasted barely 35,000, and the alignment was poor, the car pulled to the left and had uneven tyre wear. Replaced with FAG (£10 more each side) and it seems great.