Mobil 5000 or PYB?
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Originally Posted By: toneydoc
Use whatever is cheaper when you need it. They are both fine oils.
This. Neither one is going to let anything happen to your engine that the other one would've prevented. So use whichever is cheapest. Both are high quality conventionals, so it doesn't really matter which one you use.
If you're itching to try something new, then go get some Pennzoil Conventional and try that for a couple OCIs, and see which one you liked better.
Use whatever is cheaper when you need it. They are both fine oils.
This. Neither one is going to let anything happen to your engine that the other one would've prevented. So use whichever is cheapest. Both are high quality conventionals, so it doesn't really matter which one you use.
If you're itching to try something new, then go get some Pennzoil Conventional and try that for a couple OCIs, and see which one you liked better.
Mobil 5000
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/why-the-...lts-mobil-super
I would be curious to see what the engine looked like using Pennzoil Conventional in those same conditions.
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/why-the-...lts-mobil-super
I would be curious to see what the engine looked like using Pennzoil Conventional in those same conditions.
I have used both, my truck runs the same on both oils. He'll, my truck runs the same on synthetic oils too.
Originally Posted By: abycat
a couple -47 degree starts without the block heaters.
Unbelievable!
You've made my day. I thought that just fishermen overstate their results, but drivers do too.
BTW, on -47C or -47F gas loses the ability to evaporate. So no one oil could help you. This is a main reson why people install block heaters. Oil heating is important, but supplementary.
a couple -47 degree starts without the block heaters.
Unbelievable!
BTW, on -47C or -47F gas loses the ability to evaporate. So no one oil could help you. This is a main reson why people install block heaters. Oil heating is important, but supplementary.
Originally Posted By: njohnson
Mobil 5000
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/why-the-...lts-mobil-super
I would be curious to see what the engine looked like using Pennzoil Conventional in those same conditions.
Excellent example of marketing, thank you very much for posting.
Did you pay attention which parts of engine were shown? They avoid demonstration of pistons and piston rings. This makes me think that this oil fights sludge, but not high temperature deposites. BTW, pay attention on 2:34 time line. ;-) They made a mistake demonstration this.
I aam not saying that Pennzoil Conventional would work better. But don't trust ANY kind of advertising movies. They are not lying, they just don't tell you the whole truth.
Mobil 5000
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/why-the-...lts-mobil-super
I would be curious to see what the engine looked like using Pennzoil Conventional in those same conditions.
Excellent example of marketing, thank you very much for posting.
Did you pay attention which parts of engine were shown? They avoid demonstration of pistons and piston rings. This makes me think that this oil fights sludge, but not high temperature deposites. BTW, pay attention on 2:34 time line. ;-) They made a mistake demonstration this.
I aam not saying that Pennzoil Conventional would work better. But don't trust ANY kind of advertising movies. They are not lying, they just don't tell you the whole truth.
Quaker State Conventional is worth a try too. Very nice oil.
wemay
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Originally Posted By: timeau
But don't trust ANY kind of advertising movies. They are not lying, they just don't tell you the whole truth.
Exactly! They only tell you what they want you know/believe .
But don't trust ANY kind of advertising movies. They are not lying, they just don't tell you the whole truth.
Exactly! They only tell you what they want you know/believe .
Mobil is usually cheaper, both will do the same job. Financially, the Mobil is probably the better buy, but use whatever tickles your fancy. I have used both and don't see a difference in either in the past.
Originally Posted By: njohnson
Mobil 5000
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/why-the-...lts-mobil-super
I would be curious to see what the engine looked like using Pennzoil Conventional in those same conditions.
It looks like they cleaned the engine parts, and yes, they don't show certain parts. Valve cover who cares about the valve cover?
Mobil 5000
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/why-the-...lts-mobil-super
I would be curious to see what the engine looked like using Pennzoil Conventional in those same conditions.
It looks like they cleaned the engine parts, and yes, they don't show certain parts. Valve cover who cares about the valve cover?
Originally Posted By: timeau
Originally Posted By: abycat
a couple -47 degree starts without the block heaters.
Unbelievable!
You've made my day. I thought that just fishermen overstate their results, but drivers do too.
BTW, on -47C or -47F gas loses the ability to evaporate. So no one oil could help you. This is a main reson why people install block heaters. Oil heating is important, but supplementary.
THANK YOU!
I'm new here so I didn't want to point it out.....
if your thermometer reads -47 and your gasoline vehicle starts unaided, your thermometer is about 8 degrees off.
Originally Posted By: abycat
a couple -47 degree starts without the block heaters.
Unbelievable!
BTW, on -47C or -47F gas loses the ability to evaporate. So no one oil could help you. This is a main reson why people install block heaters. Oil heating is important, but supplementary.
THANK YOU!
I'm new here so I didn't want to point it out.....
if your thermometer reads -47 and your gasoline vehicle starts unaided, your thermometer is about 8 degrees off.
It literally doesn't matter at 3-5k intervals. Lowest price wins. If they're the same price, pick the prettiest bottle.
I just saw that oreillys has Havoline for $16.95 / 5 quart jug. That is the same price as the Pennzoil Conventional in my area. I looked at the PQIA stats on it and it looks REALLY good. Better than Pennzoil Conventional. Im leaning towards the Havoline now.
wemay
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I too am a Havoline fan but less so with it's SN (current ) formulation. The one that looked good to me was the old SM version.
SN
http://www.pqiamerica.com/TexacoHavoline.htm
SM
http://www.pqiamerica.com/havolinelabelrevnew.htm
SN
http://www.pqiamerica.com/TexacoHavoline.htm
SM
http://www.pqiamerica.com/havolinelabelrevnew.htm
I like Chevron Havoline as well. I don't believe you can go wrong with any of the discussed oils (Mobil Super 5000, Pennzoil conventional, Havoline). Also, like another poster mentioned, Valvoline Conventional is also on sale at Walmart right now.
wemay
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SN Havoline
http://www.pqiamerica.com/TexacoHavoline.htm
SN PYB
http://www.pqiamerica.com/Pennzoil.htm
Havoline does not come close concerning Moly.
http://www.pqiamerica.com/TexacoHavoline.htm
SN PYB
http://www.pqiamerica.com/Pennzoil.htm
Havoline does not come close concerning Moly.
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I see the way this is going. Tommorow I will walk through the front door with a 5 quart jug of each. What do you do when you cant make up your mind? Buy them all! Boy, wont my wife be excited...
On a serious note, I haven't been too impressed with the specs on Valvoline conventional, but for $14, it wouldn't hurt to try that too.
On a serious note, I haven't been too impressed with the specs on Valvoline conventional, but for $14, it wouldn't hurt to try that too.
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