Mobil 1 quality at Walmart

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Originally Posted by PimTac
I'm finding that Walmart is much cheaper on oil versus Amazon, save for their Basics brand. Buy online and pickup in store or have it delivered to you doorstep.

This solves two issues with one step for most.

Bingo! I buy a good portion of oil from WMT. AMZN gets a little carried away with prices sometimes. I spend $35 or more and two days later I have my items delivered, free. It works for me.
 
Originally Posted by demarpaint
Originally Posted by PimTac
I'm finding that Walmart is much cheaper on oil versus Amazon, save for their Basics brand. Buy online and pickup in store or have it delivered to you doorstep.

This solves two issues with one step for most.

Bingo! I buy a good portion of oil from WMT. AMZN gets a little carried away with prices sometimes. I spend $35 or more and two days later I have my items delivered, free. It works for me.



I noticed that soon after Amazon introduced their brand of oil, they raised the prices on the other brands.

Walmart has huge purchasing and selling power. That hasn't changed.
 
Originally Posted by BLND1


"Blind consumerism is a disease!" -overkill

"I don't shop at Walmart because consumerism. i decry consumption-geared lifestyles from mega conglomerates. Walmart is evil." - overkill

"Hey amazon is pretty nifty, check out these super non-poor people products like ravenol." - also overkill


If you are going to go to the trouble to attempt to denigrate me, at least get the quotes accurate, or is that beyond your capability?

Originally Posted by OVERKILL

I don't shop Walmart for two primary reasons:
1. The demographic that's typically found there
2. Canadian Tire has better prices on the extremely short list of products that I might be interested in.


Note, there are only TWO reasons listed, neither of them indicated that I didn't shop at Walmart due to consumerism.

I addressed consumerism as a separate point:
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Mindless consumerism is a disease. Our infatuation as a society with a consumption-geared lifestyle is exploited by mega-retailers like Walmart who carry all the disposable garbage you could ever want to break and replace. That's not a philosophy I live by, ergo Walmart doesn't really have much to offer me other than a chance to be in proximity to those I'd rather not be.


Walmart is probably the "temple" of consumerism. But they also carry things like fresh produce that don't fall under that umbrella. Amazon is the same way, you can buy some very high quality products that are going to last a very long time, but you can also buy counterfeit trinkets that you are luck if they last 24hrs. People choose to be consumer whores. Often, that aligns with lifestyle choices. Locally, many of those that shop at Walmart are not example citizens. I think that's relatively universal or the "People of Walmart" website wouldn't exist. The same group doesn't seem to traipse into Canadian Tire, Sobeys, or anything else near by, they choose Walmart as their haunt.

There are numerous places that are geared entirely toward consumerism. Dollarama, Dollar General, Harbour Freight. Their businesses literally revolve around volume sales of cheap product, many (most?) of which are shoddily made. That's a purchasing decision people make, to partake in that practice and attend these venues time-over. These retailers wouldn't exist, or their business model would be vastly different if the market wasn't there.

My rail against consumerism is the philosophy, not the venue. Walmart is giving people what they want. It's the people that want it and seem to attend that particular retailer that causes me to avoid it, a decision that is made even easier by the fact that of the small list of products that I use like oil and filters that I could buy at Walmart, I can get next door at Canadian Tire for less money.
 
Originally Posted by PimTac


I noticed that soon after Amazon introduced their brand of oil, they raised the prices on the other brands.

Walmart has huge purchasing and selling power. That hasn't changed.


Now that you mentioned it, it seems that way. I'm sure Bezos has a reason, probably a good one too. He didn't become the richest man in the world being stupid.
 
Originally Posted by njohnson
It is sad, the things that are being said on fb. I saw just this morning, on a Mobil 1 fb post, an Amsoil dealer commented and said that Mobil 1 is a group III oil, no PAO, no ester.


Amsoil MLM peddlers have been lying about the competition from day 1 and especially since the early days of the internet.
That's the primary reason I quit buying their product.
The mother ship throws up their hands and says "well these are independent dealers we can't expected to police them"
 
Seems like a person here really thinks quite a lot of themselves which isn't a bad thing , it's a bad thing when you look down at other people who you feel are inferior to you . It's a juvenile sign that you really don't like who you really are inside .
At one time I thought like you , I'm too good to go into these places , that's when I was young and dumb . Look at these people with their dirty cheap attire and crooked teeth .My father set me straight , I was lucky being born into a family with quite a bit of wealth that has been handed down generation to generation . My father taught me to use our means to help other people who aren't so lucky , not to mock them or look down at them . A helping hand sure feels better than a smirk . I did not need to work but I choose to for 27 years , at the age of 50 I choose not to work and spend the majority of my time helping others . I'm glad I did work for a while it showed me how the average family struggles with finances and adversity .
So get off your high horse before someone knocks you off .
 
Originally Posted by Kjmack
... it's a bad thing when you look down at other people who you feel are inferior to you ... average family struggles with finances and adversity ... get off your high horse ...


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btw, I've never ran into rude or inconsiderate people at walmart! There are 3 or 4 nearby. Just bought a cabin air filter for $13.xx and exact same filter was $19.xx at AZ less than half a mile away!
 
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Originally Posted by Kjmack
Seems like a person here really thinks quite a lot of themselves which isn't a bad thing , it's a bad thing when you look down at other people who you feel are inferior to you . It's a juvenile sign that you really don't like who you really are inside .
At one time I thought like you , I'm too good to go into these places , that's when I was young and dumb . Look at these people with their dirty cheap attire and crooked teeth .My father set me straight , I was lucky being born into a family with quite a bit of wealth that has been handed down generation to generation . My father taught me to use our means to help other people who aren't so lucky , not to mock them or look down at them . A helping hand sure feels better than a smirk . I did not need to work but I choose to for 27 years , at the age of 50 I choose not to work and spend the majority of my time helping others . I'm glad I did work for a while it showed me how the average family struggles with finances and adversity .
So get off your high horse before someone knocks you off .


I assume you are talking about me.

I must apologize if that was the impression I gave. I want to make a few things clear:
1. I am not a person who enjoys social situations. Never have. The fewer people, the better.
2. If somebody is legitimately in need I will provide whatever help I can. My kids have friends whose homes aren't the most stable setting. I have no problem feeding them, donating clothing...etc. I just got back from donating some toys and clothing to Value Village actually.
3. I had several friends growing up who were incredibly poor. We are still friends, and these are some of the best people I know. I have NEVER looked down on somebody for not having much.

I didn't grow up with your level of privilege so my views are likely a bit different. My parents were reasonably well-off, but we all had to make our own way. Fresh out of school with student loan debt, my first several years weren't comfortable, living in a run-down apartment fuelled by cereal, KD and coffee. Growing up, my grandfather, an Engineer that worked in Hydro-Electric for GE, was adamant that I knew the value of something, be it a good tool or a good boat. Even if you had to save up, you were better off buying something of high quality that would last and could be repaired over something cheap and disposable that you'd have to perpetually replace. This is what fuelled my personal issue with consumerism, as I've watched people close to me go through that cycle of buy, break and replace and it is a hard thing to get away from because it's so pervasive in society today.

Regarding the demographic thing: Our little city has a homeless and drug problem, and it's pretty bad. We have 5x methadone clinics and we also have large tracts of community housing. One of the units a few years back blew up because somebody had a meth lab operation. Some of these folks are extremely sketchy. We've had numerous serious assaults in our downtown, one of my good friends from work, her ex boyfriend was jumped and beaten to the point that he's now permanently disabled. Others have died. So when I say I am not inclined to shop at Walmart, these are the folks I'm trying to avoid, and the odds of me encountering them at Canadian Tire or Sobeys is pretty much zero.

I don't typically go to malls. I don't walk downtown. I'm not a "people person" and any group of people that aren't my immediate family bigger than roughly 5 or so I find a crowd. So if I have the option of going to Canadian Tire where the demographic is going to be a small group of mostly middle-aged mechanically geared guys picking up some FRAM orange cans and 20w-50 for their 1981 Chevy versus a dense group of everything from Average Betty buying groceries to Methy Mike and Crack Carly both getting their sketch on, I'm going for the former. I don't like being around unpredictable people.

Somewhat amusingly, as I came home and started writing this, there were 5x cop cars just down the street at one of the apartment buildings, which are sprinkled through this old part of town which is predominantly filled with old brick homes. My eldest son came flying over to inform me that there had been an altercation between one of these folks I've described above and another, which resulted in one of them getting punched in the face and an arrest.
 
I can't stand going into a Walmart anymore, there's 52 registers but only two are open. You get to scan all of your own stuff now, like you're an employee. Speaking of employees, I can't seem to find many in the store.

Oil is pretty much the only thing I'll buy there, and maybe a few other things. I just find the whole experience too frustrating now - on more than one occasion I've left my full carriage right in the middle of the store after seeing the one register open with 70 people standing in line. And I won't buy any produce there anymore either, too many times I've gotten it home and it's already rotten. And I'm not standing in line for two hours to return it.

But I have no problem with the clientele that shops there, there's a lot of hard working moms and dads shopping there to save money for their family. It's the company itself that bugs me.
 
@OVERKILL,
I'm like you. In general I try to avoid long lines or crowded places. I usually take a late lunch and no lines ... the Wal-Mart I go to has a self checkout and no lines when I go. I hear a hello/goodbye at the door and that's all. I assume if I go during rush hours in any place, it may be a different story. we go to movies after its been out at least 2 or 3 weeks. My wife doesn't like people kicking her seat and talking ... and I like it since we don't see more than 10 or 15 people in there.
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One of these days I like to talk to people who wait 36 hours in line to buy the latest phone, etc. Just curious what the logic is ... lol
 
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Originally Posted by OilUzer
@OVERKILL,
I'm like you. In general I try to avoid long lines or crowded places. I usually take a late lunch and no lines ... the Wal-Mart I go to has a self checkout and no lines when I go. I hear a hello/goodbye at the door and that's all. I assume if I go during rush hours in any place, it may be a different story. we go to movies after its been out at least 2 or 3 weeks. My wife doesn't like people kicking her seat and talking ... and I like it since we don't see more than 10 or 15 people in there.
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Sounds familiar
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I do all my Christmas shopping online, and don't do any of the crazy days like Black Friday or Boxing day. If there is a high quality product that I can get with a discount at that time typically I'll see if I can find it online (Amazon). My wife is the complete opposite, she loves the social scene, going to the mall, Walmart with her friends who shop there...etc. She isn't anywhere near as uncomfortable around unpredictable folk as I am, but she always makes it a point to tell me about the wild ones. I think her biggest gripe with Walmart has been door dings, even if she parks at the far end of the parking lot.

If you've ever seen the movie "shooter" with Mark Wahlberg? His living situation is my ideal. Out in the middle of nowhere and shooting stuff. Would need a nice high-speed Internet connection though, and those two together are hard to come by
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Originally Posted by OilUzer
@OVERKILL,
I'm like you. In general I try to avoid long lines or crowded places. I usually take a late lunch and no lines ... the Wal-Mart I go to has a self checkout and no lines when I go. I hear a hello/goodbye at the door and that's all. I assume if I go during rush hours in any place, it may be a different story. we go to movies after its been out at least 2 or 3 weeks. My wife doesn't like people kicking her seat and talking ... and I like it since we don't see more than 10 or 15 people in there.
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One of these days I like to talk to people who wait 36 hours in line to buy the latest phone, etc. Just curious what the logic is ... lol

I don't like crowds or long lines either. If I go to HD or WMT I'm usually one of the first people in the store when the doors open. I'm in and out fast. The less people I see the better when it comes to shopping. Any holiday shopping I do is online.
 
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by BLND1
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by nomas
People love to hate Walmart . It makes them feel like part of something special . Really it just shows their ignorance .


I don't shop Walmart for two primary reasons:
1. The demographic that's typically found there
2. Canadian Tire has better prices on the extremely short list of products that I might be interested in.

I buy all my meat, raised locally, at the butcher. I buy shoes at a shoe store. I buy all my electronics wholesale, at Costco or on Amazon, and clothing isn't captured by what Walmart offers, nor do I figure I am their target audience with what they do carry.

Mindless consumerism is a disease. Our infatuation as a society with a consumption-geared lifestyle is exploited by mega-retailers like Walmart who carry all the disposable garbage you could ever want to break and replace. That's not a philosophy I live by, ergo Walmart doesn't really have much to offer me other than a chance to be in proximity to those I'd rather not be.



Wow. Just wow.

You decry Walmart for is parasitic consumerism, and then praise amazon in the next sentence?

"I'm much too refined to defile myself amongst the unwashed denizens of Walmart. I get my consumerism fix at the other giant conglomerate that treats its employees like fodder. Proles!"

The mental gymnastics in this thread are beyond belief.


I didn't praise Amazon, I simply indicated that I've bought product from there. Why?
- Oil filters are 1/2 the price at Amazon than they are at Walmart or Canadian Tire
- Amazon has a massively broader selection of brands like Ravenol for example
- Amazon is an excellent source for old, obsolete or obscure computer parts
- This stuff is shipped to my house, so I don't need to have the "social experience"



Oil filters are half the price on Amazon compared to Walmart?

Which oil filter brand are you referring to?

I am looking at Fram Ultra and the price is not any less.
 
Originally Posted by painfx


Oil filters are half the price on Amazon compared to Walmart?

Which oil filter brand are you referring to?

I am looking at Fram Ultra and the price is not any less.


FRAM Ultra. I can get 2x for $13.00 on Amazon Canada, they are almost a $20 filter at Walmart or Canadian Tire. Canadian Tire sometimes has them on sale for ~$13.00.
 
Originally Posted by OilUzer
Originally Posted by Kjmack
... it's a bad thing when you look down at other people who you feel are inferior to you ... average family struggles with finances and adversity ... get off your high horse ...


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btw, I've never ran into rude or inconsiderate people at walmart! There are 3 or 4 nearby. Just bought a cabin air filter for $13.xx and exact same filter was $19.xx at AZ less than half a mile away!


Believe me-if you seen my other posts on financial topics-I can afford to shop anywhere. Walmart is our "go-to source" for just about everything. If we can't find something there-or the quality is not what we need-it's a regular supermarket or Kohls, in the case for clothing.

I could care less what people I stand next to in line, where it is made, or what others think about where I shop. The minute you hoard 20 years worth of oil-you loose all credibility with me anyway.
 
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Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by painfx


Oil filters are half the price on Amazon compared to Walmart?

Which oil filter brand are you referring to?

I am looking at Fram Ultra and the price is not any less.


FRAM Ultra. I can get 2x for $13.00 on Amazon Canada, they are almost a $20 filter at Walmart or Canadian Tire. Canadian Tire sometimes has them on sale for ~$13.00.


How come it is cheaper on Amazon Canada? I am from the states. The amazon.com shows the same price as walmart. Weird.
 
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Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by painfx


Oil filters are half the price on Amazon compared to Walmart?

Which oil filter brand are you referring to?

I am looking at Fram Ultra and the price is not any less.


FRAM Ultra. I can get 2x for $13.00 on Amazon Canada, they are almost a $20 filter at Walmart or Canadian Tire. Canadian Tire sometimes has them on sale for ~$13.00.


How come it is cheaper on Amazon Canada? I am from the states. The amazon.com shows the same price as walmart. Weird.


One of those weird quirks of Amazon I guess
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Originally Posted by OVERKILL
I didn't praise Amazon, I simply indicated that I've bought product from there. Why?
- Oil filters are 1/2 the price at Amazon than they are at Walmart or Canadian Tire
- Amazon has a massively broader selection of brands like Ravenol for example
- Amazon is an excellent source for old, obsolete or obscure computer parts
- This stuff is shipped to my house, so I don't need to have the "social experience"

I can't stand Amazon, but, unfortunately, I have to admit that sometimes they are the path of least resistance, or the only path. When I want a specific or strange electronics item, unfortunately, the Source is a poor substitute for Radio Shack and Radio Supply is long dead. When my Gillette Sensor handle broke, my only option was Amazon, since that razor hasn't been made in what, 30 years? Oil filters are a bit of a nightmare in Canada. Even given that, I'm always nervous buying them online.
 
Originally Posted by painfx
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by painfx


Oil filters are half the price on Amazon compared to Walmart?

Which oil filter brand are you referring to?

I am looking at Fram Ultra and the price is not any less.


FRAM Ultra. I can get 2x for $13.00 on Amazon Canada, they are almost a $20 filter at Walmart or Canadian Tire. Canadian Tire sometimes has them on sale for ~$13.00.


How come it is cheaper on Amazon Canada? I am from the states. The amazon.com shows the same price as walmart. Weird.


It's more that CT is a ripoff for filters
 
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