Mobil 1 or Mobil 1 EP?
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Originally Posted by avi1777
what i tought tnx,so will it be ok to even stay with the dealership syn blend motorcraft beacuse of the frequent oil changes?
tnx
You will have less deposits with a full synthetic versus a semi-synthetic and this is especially good if your vehicle is equipped with a Turbo like an Ecoboost.
what i tought tnx,so will it be ok to even stay with the dealership syn blend motorcraft beacuse of the frequent oil changes?
tnx
You will have less deposits with a full synthetic versus a semi-synthetic and this is especially good if your vehicle is equipped with a Turbo like an Ecoboost.
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I'm doing the same, using kendal synthetic blend which is a cousin of motorcraft.
Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by avi1777
what i tought tnx,so will it be ok to even stay with the dealership syn blend motorcraft beacuse of the frequent oil changes?
tnx
You will have less deposits with a full synthetic versus a semi-synthetic and this is especially good if your vehicle is equipped with a Turbo like an Ecoboost.
Not exactly true for deposits to be formed the oil has to be past saturation point for oxidation. A good additive package will control deposits better then base oil. A PAO without additives will oxidize in short order in a I.C. engine without anti oxidant.
Originally Posted by avi1777
what i tought tnx,so will it be ok to even stay with the dealership syn blend motorcraft beacuse of the frequent oil changes?
tnx
You will have less deposits with a full synthetic versus a semi-synthetic and this is especially good if your vehicle is equipped with a Turbo like an Ecoboost.
Not exactly true for deposits to be formed the oil has to be past saturation point for oxidation. A good additive package will control deposits better then base oil. A PAO without additives will oxidize in short order in a I.C. engine without anti oxidant.
Originally Posted by avi1777
and why motorcraft is going into mazda cars?its for ford originally,maybe it only happens in israeli dealerships?
weird.
What is the manufacturer's recommendation? Around here it's often the manufacturer's branded motor oil first, then followed by an industry standard
There's nothing particularly wrong with Motorcraft motor oil although it could be made by a different company. Around here it's known as made for Ford by Phillips 66, but according to the API EOLCS directory the brand is sold by other companies including overseas Ford affiliates and even major lubricant makes such as Castrol China or Total Mexico.
It wouldn't bother me if a dealer or lube shop used it. Many choose based on price or get a stable distribution agreement.
and why motorcraft is going into mazda cars?its for ford originally,maybe it only happens in israeli dealerships?
weird.
What is the manufacturer's recommendation? Around here it's often the manufacturer's branded motor oil first, then followed by an industry standard
There's nothing particularly wrong with Motorcraft motor oil although it could be made by a different company. Around here it's known as made for Ford by Phillips 66, but according to the API EOLCS directory the brand is sold by other companies including overseas Ford affiliates and even major lubricant makes such as Castrol China or Total Mexico.
It wouldn't bother me if a dealer or lube shop used it. Many choose based on price or get a stable distribution agreement.
Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by avi1777
what i tought tnx,so will it be ok to even stay with the dealership syn blend motorcraft beacuse of the frequent oil changes?
tnx
You will have less deposits with a full synthetic versus a semi-synthetic and this is especially good if your vehicle is equipped with a Turbo like an Ecoboost.
Not exactly true for deposits to be formed the oil has to be past saturation point for oxidation. A good additive package will control deposits better then base oil. A PAO without additives will oxidize in short order in a I.C. engine without anti oxidant.
I was getting at the impurities normally found in the conventional oil which is part of a semi-synthetic, it's minute and probably won't cause any issues, especially being motorcraft but this board is about obsession and the best and over the long term a semi-synthetic can't offer the same deposit control that a full synthetic can because it starts out with impurities. As little as there might be. In a Turbo application I would want to do everything possible to ensure it is as clean as possible because of the insane temperatures that oil will see around the bearings if the op's engine has a Turbo and that even full synthetics leave deposits over time because of this heat.
Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by avi1777
what i tought tnx,so will it be ok to even stay with the dealership syn blend motorcraft beacuse of the frequent oil changes?
tnx
You will have less deposits with a full synthetic versus a semi-synthetic and this is especially good if your vehicle is equipped with a Turbo like an Ecoboost.
Not exactly true for deposits to be formed the oil has to be past saturation point for oxidation. A good additive package will control deposits better then base oil. A PAO without additives will oxidize in short order in a I.C. engine without anti oxidant.
I was getting at the impurities normally found in the conventional oil which is part of a semi-synthetic, it's minute and probably won't cause any issues, especially being motorcraft but this board is about obsession and the best and over the long term a semi-synthetic can't offer the same deposit control that a full synthetic can because it starts out with impurities. As little as there might be. In a Turbo application I would want to do everything possible to ensure it is as clean as possible because of the insane temperatures that oil will see around the bearings if the op's engine has a Turbo and that even full synthetics leave deposits over time because of this heat.
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Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by avi1777
what i tought tnx,so will it be ok to even stay with the dealership syn blend motorcraft beacuse of the frequent oil changes?
tnx
You will have less deposits with a full synthetic versus a semi-synthetic and this is especially good if your vehicle is equipped with a Turbo like an Ecoboost.
Not exactly true for deposits to be formed the oil has to be past saturation point for oxidation. A good additive package will control deposits better then base oil. A PAO without additives will oxidize in short order in a I.C. engine without anti oxidant.
I was getting at the impurities normally found in the conventional oil which is part of a semi-synthetic, it's minute and probably won't cause any issues, especially being motorcraft but this board is about obsession and the best and over the long term a semi-synthetic can't offer the same deposit control that a full synthetic can because it starts out with impurities. As little as there might be. In a Turbo application I would want to do everything possible to ensure it is as clean as possible because of the insane temperatures that oil will see around the bearings if the op's engine has a Turbo and that even full synthetics leave deposits over time because of this heat.
i have a n.a non turbo 4 cyl skyactive engine.but with a 13.1 or 14.1 compression ratio not sure which but one of them.
Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by avi1777
what i tought tnx,so will it be ok to even stay with the dealership syn blend motorcraft beacuse of the frequent oil changes?
tnx
You will have less deposits with a full synthetic versus a semi-synthetic and this is especially good if your vehicle is equipped with a Turbo like an Ecoboost.
Not exactly true for deposits to be formed the oil has to be past saturation point for oxidation. A good additive package will control deposits better then base oil. A PAO without additives will oxidize in short order in a I.C. engine without anti oxidant.
I was getting at the impurities normally found in the conventional oil which is part of a semi-synthetic, it's minute and probably won't cause any issues, especially being motorcraft but this board is about obsession and the best and over the long term a semi-synthetic can't offer the same deposit control that a full synthetic can because it starts out with impurities. As little as there might be. In a Turbo application I would want to do everything possible to ensure it is as clean as possible because of the insane temperatures that oil will see around the bearings if the op's engine has a Turbo and that even full synthetics leave deposits over time because of this heat.
i have a n.a non turbo 4 cyl skyactive engine.but with a 13.1 or 14.1 compression ratio not sure which but one of them.
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With the price point between synth and conventional being so close (at least here in the US),there's no reason not to use a synth.
Originally Posted by PimTac
If I had to choose between the Motorcraft and the M1 EP, I would choose the M1. Im not knocking the Motorcraft, it's a fine oil. The M1 EP has a excellent base.
sure but will it really matter?its a 19k miles 2017 Japanese engine.
if it will and if it wont i still got to know im using the best its an illness.an high zddp low noack illnes.
If I had to choose between the Motorcraft and the M1 EP, I would choose the M1. Im not knocking the Motorcraft, it's a fine oil. The M1 EP has a excellent base.
sure but will it really matter?its a 19k miles 2017 Japanese engine.
if it will and if it wont i still got to know im using the best its an illness.an high zddp low noack illnes.
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Originally Posted by avi1777
Originally Posted by PimTac
If I had to choose between the Motorcraft and the M1 EP, I would choose the M1. Im not knocking the Motorcraft, it's a fine oil. The M1 EP has a excellent base.
sure but will it really matter?its a 19k miles 2017 Japanese engine.
if it will and if it wont i still got to know im using the best its an illness.an high zddp low noack illnes.
You're overthinking this. What viscosity grade is recommended? I can only look up the North American owners manual (picked a 2018 Mazda 6 since it has a SkyActiv 2.5) and it recommended 0W-20 in the US/Canada and 5W-30 in Mexico.
If you're changing it at manufacturer's recommended intervals then there's really not much of a benefit to trying to get "the best". Right now I'm using the cheapest "brand name" 5W-20 in my wife's Honda Civic. I wouldn't even worry too much about the heat, as long as you maintain your cooling system properly. If I were to guess, your owners manual probably indicates using an ILSAC (GF-5) 5W-30. Use that, monitor for oil consumption, and change it the way you're doing now. You'll be fine even on Motorcraft. Unless you have some specialty application I'm not sure you need to worry about it.
Originally Posted by PimTac
If I had to choose between the Motorcraft and the M1 EP, I would choose the M1. Im not knocking the Motorcraft, it's a fine oil. The M1 EP has a excellent base.
sure but will it really matter?its a 19k miles 2017 Japanese engine.
if it will and if it wont i still got to know im using the best its an illness.an high zddp low noack illnes.
You're overthinking this. What viscosity grade is recommended? I can only look up the North American owners manual (picked a 2018 Mazda 6 since it has a SkyActiv 2.5) and it recommended 0W-20 in the US/Canada and 5W-30 in Mexico.
If you're changing it at manufacturer's recommended intervals then there's really not much of a benefit to trying to get "the best". Right now I'm using the cheapest "brand name" 5W-20 in my wife's Honda Civic. I wouldn't even worry too much about the heat, as long as you maintain your cooling system properly. If I were to guess, your owners manual probably indicates using an ILSAC (GF-5) 5W-30. Use that, monitor for oil consumption, and change it the way you're doing now. You'll be fine even on Motorcraft. Unless you have some specialty application I'm not sure you need to worry about it.
Originally Posted by avi1777
i have a n.a non turbo 4 cyl skyactive engine.but with a 13.1 or 14.1 compression ratio not sure which but one of them.
I'd still use full synthetic but Motorcraft is fine if it's more economical for you.
i have a n.a non turbo 4 cyl skyactive engine.but with a 13.1 or 14.1 compression ratio not sure which but one of them.
I'd still use full synthetic but Motorcraft is fine if it's more economical for you.
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