Mobil 1 Hybrid 0w-20

[IndyFan]

Well for one thing GTL is also a Group III base, so in that respect it is no different. But yes it can have a higher VI and lower contaminates than some other Group III bases but it's not exclusive. I was just wondering why the other poster thought it resulted in a better finished product.

I see, and thanks for clarifying. Well, I'd guess it depends on the brand. Pennzoil markets it at the high end of their line, so I'd be fairly confident that in their product line, it is indeed superior. So maybe with another brand that puts the "traditional" group III in their top products, maybe not.

I've read that it is more expensive than "traditional" oil-based group III, so if true, I would surmise that it would mostly be used when there is indeed an advantage to it.

 

[DynBlin]

Any personal experience with this product? Mobil’s ads says it is formulated to compensate for the lower operating temperatures hybrid engines encounter as they cycle between ICE and electric modes. Lower operating temps = more fuel and water contamination and this product supposedly has additives to provide additional protection.

The product data sheet is unremarkable and the oil is SP/Dexos 3 licensed.

As a new hybrid owner the I can tell the ICE doesn’t operate that much in city/suburban driving, so it does seem to fill a need. On the other hand, the need also exists for DI/TGDI engines and those with auto start/stop features. So what do we think? Useful product or gimmick that will disappear in a year or two?

'Many well informed responses here, and I'll simply add with an anecdotal data point:

I picked up a '23 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid after (finally) selling the long-loyal 2015 Nissan Murano that my wife put 253k on with original Jatco CVT transmission- fodder for another thread.

I swap oil and filter at 5k intervals with oil analysis after ('just sent the 25k run Monday) and from the first change I've anticipated both water and oil petrol dilution from the low ICE hours and direct injection fuel delivery. I've used the Mobil 1 Hybrid 0W-20. Neither value comes back out of the far side of the mean in the 4 changes analysis.

My wife uses the car for 16 mile trips to the rail station and a weekly 40 mile trip for sundries on flat Nor Cal backroads. She loves the car despite a tough separation from the Murano. This will be the first season on our region's winter ethanol formulation, and I'll make a note to post back on that analysis in spring.

23 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid Limited (1.6l Kappa II GDi HEV) 25k mi
04 Hyundai Sonata (2.7-liter Delta (G6BA) V6) 208k mi
82 Ford F50 XLS (351W) Stopped tracking at 300k mi

 

[bluemts]

When i use Mobil's "search for best oil for your vehicle", the extended performace 0w-20 is recommended for my 2024 hybrid Toyota Tacoma. AFE listed 2nd , and Truck and SUV 3rd.

 

[facility1]

why not consider Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 0w20? or PUP, there is nothing special about Mobil 1, the AFE is a pretty good oil though. think outside of the box.

 

[bluemts]

why not consider Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 0w20? or PUP, there is nothing special about Mobil 1, the AFE is a pretty good oil though. think outside of the box.

I just went with Mobil 1 Extended Performance 0W-20. The Truck & SUV UOA came back from the lab with pretty decent results, trying the Extended Performance now.

 

[joekingcorvette]

After reading all these comments about which oil to use I decided to try the Mobil 1 Hybrid oil in my Ford Maverick Hybrid. My wife just had her last oil free oil change on her Toyota Rav 4 Hybrid and I will be changing hers myself too after this. I don't want the car dealership changing my oil. Anyway I did a MityVac spill and fill at 1,500 actual miles on my new Ford Marerick Hybrid.

 

[Carlostrece]

Any personal experience with this product? Mobil’s ads says it is formulated to compensate for the lower operating temperatures hybrid engines encounter as they cycle between ICE and electric modes. Lower operating temps = more fuel and water contamination and this product supposedly has additives to provide additional protection.

The product data sheet is unremarkable and the oil is SP/Dexos 3 licensed.

As a new hybrid owner the I can tell the ICE doesn’t operate that much in city/suburban driving, so it does seem to fill a need. On the other hand, the need also exists for DI/TGDI engines and those with auto start/stop features. So what do we think? Useful product or gimmick that will disappear in a year or two?

I've been contemplating using Valvoline Restore and Protect in my mom's Prius. I wonder if Valvoline Restore and Protect or Mobil 1 Hybid would be better? I'm also open to other suggestions.

It currently has NAPA FS in it, which I think is same oil as Valvoline EP FS.

 

[Japanese]

I wonder if Valvoline Restore and Protect or Mobil 1 Hybid would be better?

I would use Valvoline.
The Mobil 1 Hybrid is probably the 0W-20 with the lowest viscosity that Mobil offers.

 

[OilStained]

I previously used this one, I’m now trying out Valvoline hybrid.

 

[Carlostrece]

I would use Valvoline.
The Mobil 1 Hybrid is probably the 0W-20 with the lowest viscosity that Mobil offers.

I'd only use 5w30. Her 2009 Prius official recommendation is 5w30.

 

[Carlostrece]

I previously used this one, I’m now trying out Valvoline hybrid.
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I didn't realize Valvoline made an oil for hybrid. Does Valvoline make V Hybrid in 5w30? My mom's 2009 Prius specs are for 5w30.

So now it's a choice between 5w30 Valvoline Restore and Protect, 5w30 Valvoline Extended Protection Full Synthetic, 5w30 Valvoline Extended Protection High Mileage Full Synthetic, or 5w30 V Hybrid.

One thing I don't understand is why Valvoline makes V Hybrid to keep hybrids clean when (it seems to me) Valvoline Restore and Protect would keep a hybrid clean. What am I missing?

 

[OilStained]

V-Hybrid does not claim cleaning. It only comes in 0w-20. It claims Trap and Lock technology. I would still cycle in Valvoline Restore and Protect, Mobil 1 ESP x2 or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. More than likely Pennzoil Ultra Platinum because of the rebates.

 

[DynBlin]

*This will be the first season on our region's winter ethanol formulation, and I'll make a note to post back on that analysis in spring.*

23 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid Limited (1.6l Kappa II GDi HEV) 25k mi
04 Hyundai Sonata (2.7-liter Delta (G6BA) V6) 208k mi
82 Ford F50 XLS (351W) Stopped tracking at 300k mi

I neglected to circle back and pose fuel dilution and water content results from the last oil analysis (5k mi interval):
Fuel dilution was pretty low at .8% (against all-sample means of under 2.0)
No water content- consistent across all prior analysis
Consider this is in mild-climate NorCal

 

[OilStained]

I neglected to circle back and pose fuel dilution and water content results from the last oil analysis (5k mi interval):
Fuel dilution was pretty low at .8% (against all-sample means of under 2.0)
No water content- consistent across all prior analysis
Consider this is in mild-climate NorCal

You may have previously posted, would you remind us of what oil was used prior to M1-Hy, with <2% fuel dilution?

 

[D.P.R.]

I previously used this one, I’m now trying out Valvoline hybrid.
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I have seen it but in the local Walmart it is priced at $34.97 vs $28.97 for Mobil 1 Hybrid, making not a good value against many other oils.

 

[DynBlin]

You may have previously posted, would you remind us of what oil was used prior to M1-Hy, with <2% fuel dilution?

Good question- those are not my own means, that benchmark is from across the EOA company's cumulative analysis of the engine type & mileage. My own range over 5k intervals has been a low of .3 and high of 2.3. Without that outlier, my mean has been .56. I've used Mobil 1 Hybrid for the span of ownership. The break-in and first change were done prior to my purchase with dealer fill.

This is our first direct injection engine, and our first hybrid. I'm wrestling with my own confirmation bias for water and fuel dilution tendencies. Worries are unfounded, so far, though it's early in our typical 200k+ vehicle ownership cycles.

 

[JHZR2]

Maybe so, and I would imagine that a good oil like Mobil 1 Extended Performance 0w20 would hold up pretty well to Hybrid life and short tripping. That said, you really don´t know what is in the oil from the PDS. While they may not be significant, (or may be) I´d bet they did indeed do some formulation changes based on the differences in hybrid operation. They don´t have a massive R&D and test program to just create new labels. We see that with Mobil 1 Truck and SUV. Everyone thought it was just marketing and it turns out, according to The Motor Oil Geek, there´s some performance difference and merit to it.

I ran Mobil 1 Extended Performance 0w-20 for about the first 75k of owning my accord hybrid. Then I moved to HPL 0w-20.

Tonight I ran Mobil 1 hybrid 0w-20 in our 2014 odyssey with 121k miles. Figured it is probably good for short trips and my wife short trips often for work and errands, kids activities, etc.

 

[facility1]

Drum roll please ,will mobil 1 save the day over some other brands?

 

[4wd]

Drum roll please ,will mobil 1 save the day over some other brands?

 

[Carlostrece]

For me, not yet, but since I now have 6 x 5qt jugs and no hybrid I will be. The very short tripped Tucson and Pilot fit the bill. That mayo part of video fits the Pilot on cold weather. This is after a 10 minute drive and about 15 minutes idling on a 25F day (that went to about 35F). Also had a 25 minute drive each way to work and back about 5 days earlier so at lest made operating temperature. Oil at that point was Pennzoil Platinum Euro-L 5w30. It has been cold the last couple weeks also.
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The underside of that oil filler cap looks like it has frothy milkshake on it. Anyone else notice that?