Mobil 1 History ?
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No group I oil as additive carrier.
The PAO that is used today is of higher quality than what was originally used (higher VI through better processing and refining through hydroprocessing). So even if PAO and GRP III are blended as speculated the overall product today I speculate is better.
Also the oil today May contain AN's. ANd there are many more viscosities available today, orignially there was only 1 mobil 1 and as I currently understand it was a 20wt!
Also the oil today May contain AN's. ANd there are many more viscosities available today, orignially there was only 1 mobil 1 and as I currently understand it was a 20wt!
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Patman
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Originally Posted By: leaky
What is the difference between the Mobil 1 of nearly 30 years ago and today's basic Mobil 1 ?
Didn't the original Mobil 1 bottle (or can?) used to claim one year or 25,000 miles on it?
What is the difference between the Mobil 1 of nearly 30 years ago and today's basic Mobil 1 ?
Didn't the original Mobil 1 bottle (or can?) used to claim one year or 25,000 miles on it?
Yes, I belive you are right Patman. It was the first off the shelf synthetic oil.
30 years ago, they had the unique capability to turn innocent blood into palm oil esters. It was an amazing technology that was eventually refined into a blood to crude oil conversion process. Remarkable technology, just evolved
haha haha lol....?
Best I recall, the original Mobil 1 was a 5W-20, and was recommended for either 12,500 or 15,000 miles.
Then it was bumped to 25,000 miles. Then Mobil got the GM factory fill contract, and any increased change interval recommendation disappeared.
Then it was bumped to 25,000 miles. Then Mobil got the GM factory fill contract, and any increased change interval recommendation disappeared.
a toyota engine of mine gave up the ghost in the late 80's trying to follow their " run it for 40,000 kilometres " ad campaign
never used it since ...
never used it since ...
Originally Posted By: bonnie john
a toyota engine of mine gave up the ghost in the late 80's trying to follow their " run it for 40,000 kilometres " ad campaign
never used it since ...
Did you run it low on oil or something? Just curious.
a toyota engine of mine gave up the ghost in the late 80's trying to follow their " run it for 40,000 kilometres " ad campaign
never used it since ...
Did you run it low on oil or something? Just curious.
For those interested, here are some pictures of an OLD Mobil1 container.
Also, don,t forget the ads that showed M1 in a frying pan, next to a pan with regular oil. As the pan heated up, the regular oil would brown up and burn up while the M1 still looked like oil.
As for the 25000 mile OCI, back around 1980, I worked for a Chemical Engineer who owned a Honda Civic Wagon. (remember those little narrow wagons?)
Well, he was a firm believer in M1. He changed his oil once a year, every spring, whether it needed it or not. Would change his filter every 8000 miles and add a little M1 to make up the difference. He normally put on 25000 miles a year, all on M1.
He loved the stuff. Don't doubt that he is still using it today.
Question. Was the M1 of back then (25000 OCI) better than the M1 of today?
As for the 25000 mile OCI, back around 1980, I worked for a Chemical Engineer who owned a Honda Civic Wagon. (remember those little narrow wagons?)
Well, he was a firm believer in M1. He changed his oil once a year, every spring, whether it needed it or not. Would change his filter every 8000 miles and add a little M1 to make up the difference. He normally put on 25000 miles a year, all on M1.
He loved the stuff. Don't doubt that he is still using it today.
Question. Was the M1 of back then (25000 OCI) better than the M1 of today?
Mobil 1 always does whatever Amsoil is doing.
100% copycat.
That's why I've often wondered if Amsoil is secretly owned by Mobil and is used as a test bed for motor oil innovations.
But then Amsoil copycatted the military aviation synthetic oils of the 60's.
I work on F/A-18 fighter jets. They use a blue colored synthetic engine oil. I've often wondered how well that oil would do in a car engine? Heck, it's the stuff that inspired automotive synthetic formulas.
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*imitates BITOG forumites*
100% copycat.
That's why I've often wondered if Amsoil is secretly owned by Mobil and is used as a test bed for motor oil innovations.
But then Amsoil copycatted the military aviation synthetic oils of the 60's.
I work on F/A-18 fighter jets. They use a blue colored synthetic engine oil. I've often wondered how well that oil would do in a car engine? Heck, it's the stuff that inspired automotive synthetic formulas.
HAHAHAHAHAHA LOLOLOLOLOL!! HAHAHAHAHAHA LOLOLOLOL!!!!
*imitates BITOG forumites*
did not run it low, it never used oil, had about 65,000 k's on it
it just started to use oil at an unacceptable level after about 20,000 kilometres
swapped the engine out and went back to mineral oil
it just started to use oil at an unacceptable level after about 20,000 kilometres
swapped the engine out and went back to mineral oil
5000 miles in one year is likely as hard on an oil as 25,000.
With that many miles in a year, a good deal of them are likely highway miles; the easiest on oil.
Back then 10000 miles in a year was considered high.
Yet a 10,000 mile oil change isn't un-common on these boards.
With that many miles in a year, a good deal of them are likely highway miles; the easiest on oil.
Back then 10000 miles in a year was considered high.
Yet a 10,000 mile oil change isn't un-common on these boards.
Looking in the service records of my 1994 Mercedes C220 it has had dealer servicing all it's 240,000km and Mobil oil.The first few years it was on Mobil 1 - so it's gotta be the Mobil 1 that makes it run so well....the regular OCI is just coincidental.
Hi,
AllenWalker - I think you've got it wrong. Without EM, Amsoil might find it rather difficult to exist!
EM don't need Amsoil but Amsoil probably needs EM!!
Don't use the blue synthetic engine oil in your car - it won't achieve supersonic speeds with it! It was perhaps part of the inspiration - however the WW experience and experimentation of certain German Chemists during the early 1940s was the real inspiration for both!!
AllenWalker - I think you've got it wrong. Without EM, Amsoil might find it rather difficult to exist!
EM don't need Amsoil but Amsoil probably needs EM!!
Don't use the blue synthetic engine oil in your car - it won't achieve supersonic speeds with it! It was perhaps part of the inspiration - however the WW experience and experimentation of certain German Chemists during the early 1940s was the real inspiration for both!!
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Originally Posted By: AllenWalker
I work on F/A-18 fighter jets. They use a blue colored synthetic engine oil. I've often wondered how well that oil would do in a car engine? Heck, it's the stuff that inspired automotive synthetic formulas.
Hi Allen,
What brand, grade, and spec oil are you using in the F/A-18 engines? I am not aware of any that are blue in color.
What ever you do, don't use that oil in your car engine - totally wrong viscosity and additives.
Tom NJ
I work on F/A-18 fighter jets. They use a blue colored synthetic engine oil. I've often wondered how well that oil would do in a car engine? Heck, it's the stuff that inspired automotive synthetic formulas.
Hi Allen,
What brand, grade, and spec oil are you using in the F/A-18 engines? I am not aware of any that are blue in color.
What ever you do, don't use that oil in your car engine - totally wrong viscosity and additives.
Tom NJ
They're bearing oil for turbines, these synthetics.. We used them in Air Conditioning turbines and the engine guys used them for engines and APU's. They're meant for super high RPM, 100,000 rpms or more. Wouldn't do at all for cars because they lack additives required by cars..
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