Mobil 1 filters

[disturban]

Originally Posted By: CompSyn
I was just comparing efficiency ratings and found:

PureOne Oil filers ISO 4548-12 of 99.9 percent at 20 microns

Amsoil EaO Oil Filters ISO 4548-12 of 98.7 percent at 15 microns, and ISO 4548-12 of 70.0 percent at 7 microns

Checked the Mobil 1 site and they don't list any ratings with the ISO 4548-12.

This is what Mobil 1 says:

"Mobil 1 Extended Performance Oil Filters contain synthetic fibers instead of the typical cellulose filter media. With a 99.2 percent efficiency rating (underThere is a new filter test, the SAE J1858, that provides particle counting and gravimetric measurement to measure both filter capacity and efficiency. The particle count test measures the number of particles of all sizes combined per fluid volume before and after the filter. The beta (B) ratio is then used by the filter manufacturers to determine a filter's efficiency. Beta calculation of filter efficiency [beta] = #of particles upstream/ = 10,000 particles/ = 10 #of particles downstream 1,000 particles Filter efficiency = (a-1) * 100/ = (10-1) * 100/ = 90% efficiency

[beta] 10 - The particle count leads to the measurement of the filter's capacity, while the gravimetric process measures the weight of the particles before and after the filter to determine the filter's efficiency. Keep in mind that when a filter manufacturer says its filter is 90 percent efficient, it could be based on either the particle weight or on the size of the particles. If the filter's efficiency is based on particle size, the manufacturer may specify, for example, that it removes 90 percent of all 20 micron-sized particles!
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So, I'd be interested to know the micron rating of the Mobil 1 filter when it's "99.2 percent efficient"?

Also, I believe the Mobil 1 filters are a synthetic & paper filter media blend and not 100% synthetic, correct?

This is what I found for testing method SAE J1858.

There is a new filter test, the SAE J1858, that provides particle counting and gravimetric measurement to measure both filter capacity and efficiency. The particle count test measures the number of particles of all sizes combined per fluid volume before and after the filter. The beta (B) ratio is then used by the filter manufacturers to determine a filter's efficiency. Beta calculation of filter efficiency [beta] = #of particles upstream/ = 10,000 particles/ = 10 #of particles downstream 1,000 particles Filter efficiency = (a-1) * 100/ = (10-1) * 100/ = 90% efficiency

[beta] 10 - The particle count leads to the measurement of the filter's capacity, while the gravimetric process measures the weight of the particles before and after the filter to determine the filter's efficiency. Keep in mind that when a filter manufacturer says its filter is 90 percent efficient, it could be based on either the particle weight or on the size of the particles. If the filter's efficiency is based on particle size, the manufacturer may specify, for example, that it removes 90 percent of all 20 micron-sized particles!

As far as I know the new Mobil 1 EP filters are 100% synthetic filter media.

 

[daman]

Originally Posted By: disturban

As far as I know the new Mobil 1 EP filters are 100% synthetic filter media.

They are not,, there a blend.

 

[ZZman]

M1's are very good but expensive.

The Purolator Pure One/Bosch Premium's are bargains.

 

[elwaylite]

I'm using the Mobil filters because someone that knows a lot about oil and filters recommended them. Thats all I need to know.

Too much posted on this site is brand loyalty and opinion, and the casual poster must try and sift thru that.

 

[elwaylite]

Originally Posted By: BigLou80
I think the K&N and mobile one are the same filter. look closely at both of them. same part numbering scheme, same look, same numbers stamped in to the filter, same steel tube inside,same weight etc. the mobile one filter is usually a few dollars cheaper

I personally dont care about cost. its cheap insurance to run good oil and a good filter and change it out before it needs it. $50 every three months thats only $200/year or $0.55 per day I use that much in gas just warming my truck up


K&N is more free flowing and better for longer drains, but does not filter as fine a particle as well as the Mobil.

Some of the Toyo TRD filters are the K&N, and the better flow holds true here.

 

[shokhead]

Originally Posted By: ZZman
M1's are very good but expensive.

The Purolator Pure One/Bosch Premium's are bargains.


I've used Bosch for years now. I thought I saw something somewhere that said Bosch and M1 were the same inside?

 

[SilverC6]

Originally Posted By: elwaylite
I'm using the Mobil filters because someone that knows a lot about oil and filters recommended them. Thats all I need to know.

Too much posted on this site is brand loyalty and opinion, and the casual poster must try and sift thru that.


It may sound that way but we are just reporting the history of our experiences.

You might find some analytical testing of oils or filters somewhere and use that. Share it with us when you find it.

In the meantime, I'll use what I've learned so far in life after 35 years of changing my own oil.

I'll be in the PP line and using Purolator, AC Delco, and factory Toyota filters depending on my auto application.

 

[SilverC6]

Originally Posted By: shokhead
Originally Posted By: ZZman
M1's are very good but expensive.

The Purolator Pure One/Bosch Premium's are bargains.


I've used Bosch for years now. I thought I saw something somewhere that said Bosch and M1 were the same inside?


This was close to true before Purolator was bought by Bosch.

Now Bosch looks just like a Pure One painted a different color.

It's still a high quality filter for your money.

 

[elwaylite]

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Originally Posted By: elwaylite
I'm using the Mobil filters because someone that knows a lot about oil and filters recommended them. Thats all I need to know.

Too much posted on this site is brand loyalty and opinion, and the casual poster must try and sift thru that.


It may sound that way but we are just reporting the history of our experiences.

You might find some analytical testing of oils or filters somewhere and use that. Share it with us when you find it.

In the meantime, I'll use what I've learned so far in life after 35 years of changing my own oil.

I'll be in the PP line and using Purolator, AC Delco, and factory Toyota filters depending on my auto application.


It wasn't pointed at anyone, just an FYI for the OP. I hear a lot of the "35 year" comments and I have a problem with it. Just because Purolator made a good product in 1990, does not mean they do now. I agree that Purolator, Wix, Mobil and a few others are great now, but it does not mean they always will be. This site is for keeping us up to date on what is the CURRENTLY the best.

Like I said, I think the Purolator is great too, but not because it was 35 years ago.