Mobil 1 M1-212A made in South Korea.

[4WD]

The filter pandemic exists on BITOG - the other 99% motor on putting millions of miles on dozens of vehicle types …
(Finally the steel rots around a good motor) …

 

[MetalSlug]

That is my next oil filter right there, I hope they Dont change. The price is good and very convenient

 

[Zee09]

If I was buying M1 filters I'd try to get Vietnamese made ones if possible. I only say this as some of the worst machining I have ever seen was out of SK.... ( often too )
Other than that I say this with no prejudice. USA only if I could.

 

[mco30mco]

tariffs and slowdowns with shipping and laid off truckers and laid off ups workers we may have to try and find the best available made in USA options. We shall see if shelf space starts emptying as the news says is happening

 

[Cujet]

I just purchased the M1 filter for my 2024 F150 5.0. It was the only fitment option they had. We shall see.

 

[BrokenAudiTT]

I know everyone is gonna attack on this but all these external photos of the South Korean and Vietnam filters look like garbage. In consistent base plates. The holes are half covered. The can look cheap and where the base mounts to the can looks like crap. Not sure what the deals are made out of but black ones were always on basic super cheap filters.
Is everyone really abandoning all the sturdy looking made in USA filters for these overpriced foreign filters that people make pennies an hour to produce? Sorry bout the rant just calling as I see it.
Hard to believe the insides are perfect and reliable if the outside had such vast variance. Also if all these companies are suddenly going to these few factories the quality is bound to go down quick with the volume going through the roof.
Okay, I’m sure i am in trouble now

So what USA made filter do you recommend? M+H filters suck

 

[mco30mco]

I’ve just started researching fleetguard. Still have Fram wix some purolators royal purple and amsoil. Seems no one on here likes any of these anymore. Maybe I should just go back to oem motorcraft.

 

[john_pifer]

I believe P.G. may also be producing the O.E.M. filters ( 26300-35505 ) for HYUNDAI / KIA at a plant in South Korea . Can't remember where I spotted it .

I have some of those in the garage. I’ll have to check.

 

[ltslimjim]

I’ve just started researching fleetguard. Still have Fram wix some purolators royal purple and amsoil. Seems no one on here likes any of these anymore. Maybe I should just go back to oem motorcraft.

Fram has leaking bypass valves (passing unfiltered oil; and has ruined their gem Ultra filters under First Brands for starters)

Purolator (media tears under M+H)

Wix (same as Purolator)

RP & Amsoil are essentially the same filters and each made by Champ labs; much like the Fram Endurance, all have leaking bypass valves for now until it’s proven to be fixed…

Instead, consider that Napa Gold, Mobil 1 (apparently), CarQuest Premium (AAP), some STP XL (AutoZone) and MicroGard Select (Orielly’s) all are made by PG these days. What does that tell you when house brands; and the long standing Wix clone Napa Gold, have all gone to PG for overseas production? Why not blame the greed and lack of pride in products companies locally put out in today’s generation of pleasing shareholders and board members; rather than the customer’s in mind, ethics. Greed and pride are before a fall.

 

[Furious]

Was at Walmart today and checked out my vehicle specific oil filter M1-101A

It is made in South Korea, it does not have a bypass valve like the Microgard Select or PG so they did it correctly for the Mobil 1 at least. There was no glue all around the bottom like most PG made filters it was very clean, the threads were perfect.

Only thing that is confusing is the box says 99% at particles greater than 30 microns, so now comes the question are they reusing old boxes or is it actually 99% at 30 Microns unlike what Highline Warren said it being at 20 Microns.

I am perfectly fine with 99% at 30 Microns if it is the case considering I run OEM AC Delco PF47E which is 98% 30 Microns

 

[Sayjac]

......Only thing that is confusing is the box says 99% at particles greater than 30 microns, so now comes the question are they reusing old boxes or is it actually 99% at 30 Microns unlike what Highline Warren said it being at 20 Microns....

Same as when M1 changed to M&H Puro made from long time Champ Labs made, my speculation is that the box efficiency spec carries over even with new manufacturer. @30um common for Champ to use. In any case wouldn't bother me.

Not sure what issue is with the potting seen around the integral bypass. It's very common to see some potting in a ring around the internal bypass. Unless it's just dripping down the center tube, wouldn't be a concern 'for me'.

Al that said, if I'm looking PG made, for me AAP Carquest Premium for less. But, buying off the shelf at WM is very convenient.

 

[Furious]

Same as when M1 changed to M&H Puro made from long time Champ Labs made, my speculation is that the box efficiency spec carries over even with new manufacturer. @30um common for Champ to use. In any case wouldn't bother me.

Not sure what issue is with the potting seen around the integral bypass. It's very common to see some potting in a ring around the internal bypass. Unless it's just dripping down the center tube, wouldn't be a concern 'for me'.

Al that said, if I'm looking PG made, for me AAP Carquest Premium for less. But, buying off the shelf at WM is very convenient.

My issue with other PG filters isn't the glue it is the fact that they have a bypass valve to begin with when the factory filter does not because it is built in the block. This is not an issue with the Mobil 1 filter because unlike other PG style filters the Mobil 1 does not have a bypass valve.

Example Chevy 4.3:
AC Delco PF47E (Does not have a Bypass Valve) (OE)
Mobil 1 M1-101A (Does not have a Bypass Valve)
Microgard Select MSL51040 (Has a Bypass Valve)
STP Extended Life S3387A (Has a Bypass Valve)

I was simply pointing out the fact that the Mobil 1 M1-101A does not have the glue at the bottom like the other PG style filters do, never said it was an issue.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Only thing that is confusing is the box says 99% at particles greater than 30 microns, so now comes the question are they reusing old boxes or is it actually 99% at 30 Microns unlike what Highline Warren said it being at 20 Microns.

It could be they are in old Mobil 1 boxes. Time will tell to see if the box also changes. When Fram started changing their filters, the new designed filters were seen in old boxes early on, but the boxes caught up later.

 

[Furious]

It could be they are in old Mobil 1 boxes. Time will tell to see if the box also changes. When Fram started changing their filters, the new designed filters were seen in old boxes early on, but the boxes caught up later.

That is the likely scenario, unfortunately the box doesn't say where it was manufactured to be able to verify right now only the filter says that.

But either way I am perfectly fine with 99% at 30 Microns on a well built filter.

 

[ZeeOSix]

But either way I am perfectly fine with 99% at 30 Microns on a well built filter.

I was told by Highline Warren filter dept on the phone that the new Mobil 1 is 99% @ 20u. Since that is different than the 99% @ 30u when M+H made them, then I'm giving Highline Warren the benefit of the doubt until some other info makes their claim invalid.