Mobil 1 Extended Performance vs PU for extended (10K+) intervals. Opinions?
03 Corolla Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w30 64k
03 Corolla Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w30 64k
Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w-30 vs. PU 5W-30
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Opinion, from what I have read on BITOG, either would serve you well. Is that particular Toyota Motor shown to be "harder" or easy on oils? How have your used oil analysis come out (if you have had any) on the Mobil 1 Extended Performance?
I've heard this motor is easy on oil, although it does have a timing chain
1ZZFE is NOT easy on the oil. I've done enough miles/UOAs/ with many different oils to verify this.
Bill
Bill
Bill,
with that being said, which do you believe is the stouter oil?
with that being said, which do you believe is the stouter oil?
I pitty the fool that doesn't contribute to my thread!
Both of them are great oils. I would personally go with the Mobil 1 Extended Performance because it was designed for extended drains. If you were going with 7500 miles oci, either one will serve you well assuming your oil filter won’t plug up. Bill has the same engine, he should have a better idea how far you can go on the oil. It may be beneficial for you to get a used oil analysis.
I would use the Mobil 1 Extended Performance if for no other reason that it's on every shelf of every Walmart in the country, and it is a very good oil.
I think the Ultra could do it, but will you be able to find it by the next oil change.
There, now I don't have to be on the pity list.
I think the Ultra could do it, but will you be able to find it by the next oil change.
There, now I don't have to be on the pity list.
Although I haven't used them I know Pennzoil makes very good products. The PU in many engines will do 10K OCIs easily. As for the one comment about timing chains, I have used Mobil 1 Extended Performance in Ford engines using timing chains with no problems at all with 10-12K OCIs. EP works great for me, in fact a friend is doing 15K with 5-30EP in a Ford Windstar. Engine has 125K and running great.
Originally Posted By: Johnny
I would use the Mobil 1 Extended Performance if for no other reason that it's on every shelf of every Walmart in the country, and it is a very good oil.
I think the Ultra could do it, but will you be able to find it by the next oil change.
There, now I don't have to be on the pity list.
Dang johnny, That took some courage !
I would use the Mobil 1 Extended Performance if for no other reason that it's on every shelf of every Walmart in the country, and it is a very good oil.
I think the Ultra could do it, but will you be able to find it by the next oil change.
There, now I don't have to be on the pity list.
Dang johnny, That took some courage !
FWIW, I'm putting in Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w30 in my 2002 corolla. The Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 that is in there now has about 5500 miles on it with a Mobil 1 M1-103 filter.
I'd run either in that rig, but if it were mine I'd be searching for Bill's used oil analysis to see the longest he has gone as well.
Originally Posted By: Clubber_Lang
Bill,
with that being said, which do you believe is the stouter oil?
I think Amsoil stating that to follow Toyota's OCI (5,000 miles MAX) tells a lot on how long should you go with the 1ZZFE.
Personally, I go 7-8k normally with conventional. BUT I do 90% highway with 10% city. And most of the time my highway is a few miles to get to it and then hour + at speed with another few miles to get to work.
If I was going to run a syn it would be either Quaker State or Pennzoil Platinum (not PU) mainly for price. The engine will last the same no matter what oil you use. Our engines are 5w30 recommended and that is what I'd run. 2006 they allowed 5w-20 with some changes incl more oil in the sump.
Timing chains DO affect the oil life. Do NOT listen to anyone who says that they run xx miles with x brand so its okay with YOUR engine. Different mfg of engines ARE DIFFERENT.
In the winter, I lower my OCI no matter what oil. SC does not get that cold I think.
If you do decide to run EP, make sure you get a used oil analysis with TBN. I would NOT run it for that long no matter what marketing/warranty spew that was presented to me.
Go review my used oil analysis. There was a 9k run of a oil that is stated to run 25k and it was spent. There is NO way it could make 15k much less 25k in MY motor. And that was with 2 quarts of make up oil in a 4 quart sump!
Exactly what are you trying to achieve?
You should read this and re-ask the question.
Bill
Bill,
with that being said, which do you believe is the stouter oil?
I think Amsoil stating that to follow Toyota's OCI (5,000 miles MAX) tells a lot on how long should you go with the 1ZZFE.
Personally, I go 7-8k normally with conventional. BUT I do 90% highway with 10% city. And most of the time my highway is a few miles to get to it and then hour + at speed with another few miles to get to work.
If I was going to run a syn it would be either Quaker State or Pennzoil Platinum (not PU) mainly for price. The engine will last the same no matter what oil you use. Our engines are 5w30 recommended and that is what I'd run. 2006 they allowed 5w-20 with some changes incl more oil in the sump.
Timing chains DO affect the oil life. Do NOT listen to anyone who says that they run xx miles with x brand so its okay with YOUR engine. Different mfg of engines ARE DIFFERENT.
In the winter, I lower my OCI no matter what oil. SC does not get that cold I think.
If you do decide to run EP, make sure you get a used oil analysis with TBN. I would NOT run it for that long no matter what marketing/warranty spew that was presented to me.
Go review my used oil analysis. There was a 9k run of a oil that is stated to run 25k and it was spent. There is NO way it could make 15k much less 25k in MY motor. And that was with 2 quarts of make up oil in a 4 quart sump!
Exactly what are you trying to achieve?
You should read this and re-ask the question.
Bill
I don't believe it gets too cold in SC so if you have an engine that is tough on oil I would go with a 10W30 long before I go with a 5W30, especially for a long drain.
I would go with Pennzoil Ultra 10W30 or (preferably) step up to Amsoil or Redline.
I would go with Pennzoil Ultra 10W30 or (preferably) step up to Amsoil or Redline.
The 1ZZ-FE is hard on oil and Bill is dead on about this. Its been documented in so many cases (particularly when you own a Corolla and regularly read the Corolla specific forums, as well as the used oil analysis done here) that this is fact, not opinion.
Likewise I wouldn't fork out the extra for PU, and just go with PP or M1 (depending on which company you prefer to give your money to or which oil is cheaper).
5W30 is the recommended grade for this vintage and I'd stick with that, particularly if choosing between these two oils as both should be sheer resistant and not thin out if the oil isn't pushed too long between OCIs (and then its not going to matter which you started out with since the end result will be a thinned out 20 weight oil with its tbn depleted).
-Spyder
Likewise I wouldn't fork out the extra for PU, and just go with PP or M1 (depending on which company you prefer to give your money to or which oil is cheaper).
5W30 is the recommended grade for this vintage and I'd stick with that, particularly if choosing between these two oils as both should be sheer resistant and not thin out if the oil isn't pushed too long between OCIs (and then its not going to matter which you started out with since the end result will be a thinned out 20 weight oil with its tbn depleted).
-Spyder
Originally Posted By: Spyder7
The 1ZZ-FE is hard on oil and Bill is dead on about this. Its been documented in so many cases (particularly when you own a Corolla and regularly read the Corolla specific forums, as well as the used oil analysis done here) that this is fact, not opinion.
Likewise I wouldn't fork out the extra for PU, and just go with PP or M1 (depending on which company you prefer to give your money to or which oil is cheaper).
5W30 is the recommended grade for this vintage and I'd stick with that, particularly if choosing between these two oils as both should be sheer resistant and not thin out if the oil isn't pushed too long between OCIs (and then its not going to matter which you started out with since the end result will be a thinned out 20 weight oil with its tbn depleted).
-Spyder
With all of this Toyota sludgeing engines and timing chains being hard on oil talk, makes me wonder how my engines ever lasted as long as they have before I heard of the vast wisdom of BITOG. Lets see, let me count the engines that I have had that had to be replaced because of 10-12K OCIs. When I get the tally figured up I will report.
The 1ZZ-FE is hard on oil and Bill is dead on about this. Its been documented in so many cases (particularly when you own a Corolla and regularly read the Corolla specific forums, as well as the used oil analysis done here) that this is fact, not opinion.
Likewise I wouldn't fork out the extra for PU, and just go with PP or M1 (depending on which company you prefer to give your money to or which oil is cheaper).
5W30 is the recommended grade for this vintage and I'd stick with that, particularly if choosing between these two oils as both should be sheer resistant and not thin out if the oil isn't pushed too long between OCIs (and then its not going to matter which you started out with since the end result will be a thinned out 20 weight oil with its tbn depleted).
-Spyder
With all of this Toyota sludgeing engines and timing chains being hard on oil talk, makes me wonder how my engines ever lasted as long as they have before I heard of the vast wisdom of BITOG. Lets see, let me count the engines that I have had that had to be replaced because of 10-12K OCIs. When I get the tally figured up I will report.
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A N T I C I P A T I O N !!! It`s Makin me wait!
did ya get the figures yet ??
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