Mobil 1 ESP 0w30

[buster]

http://www.mobil.com/UK-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_ESP_0W-30.aspx Available only in Europe right now. Viscosity, ASTM D 445 cSt @ 40ºC 67.8 cSt @ 100ºC 12.2 Sulfated Ash, wt%, ASTM D 874 0.6 Phosphorous 0.08 Density @15º C kg/l, ASTM D 4052 0.846 Total Base Number (TBN) ASTM D 2896 6.3 MRV at -30ºC 26900 Viscosity Index 165 HTHS Viscosity, mPa•s @150ºC, ASTM D 4683 3.5

 

[A_Harman]

Interesting. It has GC'ish viscosity specs, but is low SAPS.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: A_Harman

Interesting. It has GC'ish viscosity specs, but is low SAPS.

Kills two birds with one stone as in Europe such oil can be used in both modern diesel as well as gasoline engines. If this oil were to be offered in the US, it would only be allowed for diesel engines due to our differences in gasoline quality and emission standards.

 

[CATERHAM]

With that low 165 VI and lower phos' I'd prefer M1 0W-40 which will be lighter on start-up.

 

[Brons2]

The specs barely look different than M1 5w30 ESP if at all. I don't get it. Do European customers strongly favor a 0w30 in marketing terms?

 

[aquariuscsm]

Tbn of 6.3 seems really whimpy (if I read the specs right).

 

[Garak]

XOM needs to fix up their sheet. Since when is MRV of a 0w-XX measured at -30 C?

 

[Merkava_4]

Quote:

cSt @ 100ºC 12.2

That's a good viscosity right there. I wonder how well it stays in grade.

 

[StevieBoy]

I thought closer to 10 was better for a 30W?

 

[dparm]

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM

With that low 165 VI and lower phos' I'd prefer M1 0W-40 which will be lighter on start-up.

http://www.mobil.com/UK-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_ESP_0W-30.aspx VI calculates to 179. With HTHS of 3.5, this could actually be an interesting oil. The mediocre TBN is because this is a low SAPS oil. It's BMW LL-04 and MB 229.31/229.51/229.52. One of the very few oils to be approved for 229.52.

 

[JAG]

Has anyone seen this oil sold in a store? I'd consider trying it in my GTI if the price isn't too outrageous.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: JAG

Has anyone seen this oil sold in a store?

It's not available in the US, AFAIK. But M1 ESP 5w-30 is available and appears to be very similar. PepBoys carries it. Amazon also.

 

[JAG]

Thanks Pete. I have used the 5W-30 version but it costs too much at Pep Boys, in my opinion, compared to other suitable oils bought in 5 qt. jugs at Walmart.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: JAG

I have used the 5W-30 version but it costs too much at Pep Boys,

Agree. If you need low SAPS oil, apparently AA has Synpower 5w-40 on sale... http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb..._SynPowe#UNREAD

 

[JAG]

Thanks again, Pete. I used Valvoline MST 5W-40 once and subjectively, the engine felt like it was laboring more and gas mileage suffered compared to many other oils I've used. Strange but true.

 

[Quattro Pete]

JAG, what is your application? All of these oils (Synpower 5w-40, M1 ESP 0w-30, M1 ESP 5w-30) are high HT/HS oils, and as such may negatively affect fuel economy and performance. I certainly wouldn't use such oils unless the application specifically required them. Same goes for low SAPS - I wouldn't use a low SAPS oil unless my application specifically required it.

 

[JAG]

2003 1.8T GTI is the application. Mid-SAPS is not needed but I'm not opposed to using them.

 

[21Rouge]

Originally Posted By: buster

http://www.mobil.com/UK-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_ESP_0W-30.aspx Available only in Europe right now.

Is this 0W30 available in CANADA?

 

[Garak]

Check with Imperial Oil. It's not on any of my sell sheets, but that doesn't mean much.

 

[nap]

Canadian Tire has it. http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mobil-1-euro-syntheticengine-oil-1-l-0289916p.html