Mobil 1 Advanced Clean is here

hmmmm. I stand corrected.

I remember at the kiosks when it came out, it did not say "up to"


"up to" could mean .0001% of course
It does say on front of the bottle, “cleans engine in one oil change”. May be what you’re remembering. Which also could be taken in different ways and mean anywhere from .0001-100%

ETA - post above was before I finished this post. I wasn’t aware of that so you could be right
 
I think you are taking words on packaging too literally. Marketing has never been an honest game and will never be.
Goes to show how desperate they have gotten due to stiff competion, looks like Mobil 1 is riding on their laurels.
 
I highly doubt Mobil is desperate.
By all accounts, Valvoline is eating their lunch with Valvoline Restore and Protect. There are many die hard Mobil 1 fans that will buy it no matter what (and indeed it appears many are members here) but it seems Valvoline is really cutting into their market share, so they seem forced to release something.
 
Goes to show how desperate they have gotten due to stiff competion, looks like Mobil 1 is riding on their laurels.
I highly doubt Mobil is desperate.
By all accounts, Valvoline is eating their lunch with Valvoline Restore and Protect. There are many die hard Mobil 1 fans that will buy it no matter what (and indeed it appears many are members here) but it seems Valvoline is really cutting into their market share, so they seem forced to release something.
I'm sure if Advanced Clean doesn't perform as well as Valvoline Restore and Protect, they will in time come up with an oil just as good or better.
 
I highly doubt Mobil is desperate.

I'm sure if Advanced Clean doesn't perform as well as Valvoline Restore and Protect, they will in time come up with an oil just as good or better.
If it had any shot at performing as well as Valvoline Restore and Protect, rest assured we’d see piston ring before and after shots like we have with Valvoline Restore and Protect. They don’t have it. They also would never release a product without knowing exactly how it will perform. If it cleaned piston rings, they’d be telling us.
 
If it had any shot at performing as well as Valvoline Restore and Protect, rest assured we’d see piston ring before and after shots like we have with Valvoline Restore and Protect. They don’t have it. They also would never release a product without knowing exactly how it will perform. If it cleaned piston rings, they’d be telling us.
Ugh, It never ends
 
I highly doubt Mobil is desperate.
They might not be desperate, but by the number of people who went on trying Valvoline Restore and Protect on here (including me and a friend of mine). I can tell you Exxon/Mobil lost significant number of users. Yes, some people witch to Mobil 1 ESP after Valvoline Restore and Protect. But Mobil lost some Mobil 1 Extended Protection customers.
 
They might not be desperate, but by the number of people who went on trying Valvoline Restore and Protect on here (including me and a friend of mine). I can tell you Exxon/Mobil lost significant number of users. Yes, some people witch to Mobil 1 ESP after Valvoline Restore and Protect. But Mobil lost some Mobil 1 Extended Protection customers.
For sure...
Peeple are sheeple...
 
By all accounts, Valvoline is eating their lunch with Valvoline Restore and Protect. There are many die hard Mobil 1 fans that will buy it no matter what (and indeed it appears many are members here) but it seems Valvoline is really cutting into their market share, so they seem forced to release something.
Funny thing is that the die hard Mobil 1 fans who have run nothing else likely don't need Valvoline Restore and Protect. I know my engines don't.

Valvoline has a video out there where they ran two identical engines, one on synthetic and one on dino, for many, many miles. (I can't remember how many). They tore them down and the one that ran Valvoline Advanced Synthetic looked VERY clean. So it isn't only Mobil 1 fans who probably don't need Valvoline Restore and Protect.
 
Funny thing is that the die hard Mobil 1 fans who have run nothing else likely don't need Valvoline Restore and Protect. I know my engines don't.

Valvoline has a video out there where they ran two identical engines, one on synthetic and one on dino, for many, many miles. (I can't remember how many). They tore them down and the one that ran Valvoline Advanced Synthetic looked VERY clean. So it isn't only Mobil 1 fans who probably don't need Valvoline Restore and Protect.
All my stuff has lived on Mobil 1.
None of them need top-offs between changes, burn or leak, or are plastered with internal varnish or sludge or goop or whatever.
Treat your engine like a drunken amusement park?
Valvoline Restore and Protect is your last bastion of hope I guess🙏
 
Funny thing is that the die hard Mobil 1 fans who have run nothing else likely don't need Valvoline Restore and Protect. I know my engines don't.

Valvoline has a video out there where they ran two identical engines, one on synthetic and one on dino, for many, many miles. (I can't remember how many). They tore them down and the one that ran Valvoline Advanced Synthetic looked VERY clean. So it isn't only Mobil 1 fans who probably don't need Valvoline Restore and Protect.
Agree you are less likely but not immune with Mobil 1. It is good oil overall.

I know of one Subaru that developed a nasty oil burning habit on nothing but Mobil 1 Extended Performance at short intervals from new. There are other scattered reports here and there too.
 
Knock off the bickering please.
Lest the thread gets locked.

Let's stick to facts. I see a lot of claims, all baseless, about how this product affects the sales of that product. Yet I don't see any market analysis data; where's the quarterly market share reports to back up all this hype one way or another???
 
Agree you are less likely but not immune with Mobil 1. It is good oil overall.

I know of one Subaru that developed a nasty oil burning habit on nothing but Mobil 1 Extended Performance at short intervals from new. There are other scattered reports here and there too.
Not immune? What I am 100% immune to is sludge anxiety. Mobil 1 certainly cures that, or at least gives a good strong placebo effect.

So here are some facts....I've, by far, mostly used Mobil 1 products over the years, with a few deviations with other oils I consider to be very good. I've never worn an engine out. So even if it was dirty, it simply did not matter. I've never parted ways with an engine running less than perfectly. And every time I've popped off a valve cover, the engines were spotless. This is going back over 40 years, with mostly Mobil 1 oils wit at least some PAO in the base.

As for pistons, I don't really care as long as they don't have carbon deposits. It's a combustion chamber where gas burns. It ain't going to be factory new in there, no matter what Valvoline or anyone else tells you. Once an engine is fired up for even a few moments, there's going to be at least some coloring. That happens before you ever take delivery of your engine.

I'm sure Valvoline Restore and Protect is great, and I would not hesitate running it in a vehicle where I thought some cleaning might be needed. But even in vehicles I bought used, a few runs with Mobil 1 (Again, PAO base) and they were showing significant signs of cleaning.

I've done about 5 or 6 runs of Mobil 1 Extended Performance 0w20 in my wife's Compass 2.4, starting at about 80k miles. It has bulk synthetic oil changes from various quickie lubes up to that point. I'll be pulling the valve cover off at some point and I'm expecting it to look very clean, based on all those years of experience. I thought about running Valvoline Restore and Protect, but decided I don't believe it needs it. When I do pull that valve cover off, I'll create a thread and post it with a recap of its known history. If it surprises me and it turns out to be dirty, I may give Valvoline Restore and Protect a go.
 
use most any modern syntheti name brand with current sp/sq,gf-6 or 7 with proper oci pertaining to your driving type and habits and you should not have any restrictive engine problems.
 
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