I think the mods see the humor and seem not to have a hair trigger on the ban hammer. They've tolerated it since 2005, much of it much edgier than that. But if the forum has become more sensitive, then it would probably be an easy way to decrease the screen time in my life, which might be a good thing.I'm with you but be careful, you may be right on the edge of the ban-hammer around here for being negatively insightful.
Stay the course that's been results-proven.
That's what I do.
There's some smart cookies on here though.
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Are engines the same as they were 25 years ago? You have a proven API spec oil that will clean piston rings back to factory clean and keep them clean and is returning phenomenal used oil analysis, and people want to look a gift horse in the mouth.What if the results they've been getting for 25 years have been stellar and proven?
Are they still considered closed minded for not switching to a cleaning oil?
Are they still considered closed minded
Maybe this is where the misunderstanding lies. It's not a cleaning oil. It's a fully formulated API spec oil that can be run from the showroom until the scrapyard, and it also happens to clean piston rings back to their original state.switching to a cleaning oil
Are engines the same as they were 25 years ago? You have a proven API spec oil that will clean piston rings back to factory clean and keep them clean and is returning phenomenal used oil analysis, and people want to look a gift horse in the mouth.
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Maybe this is where the misunderstanding lies. It's not a cleaning oil. It's a fully formulated API spec oil that can be run from the showroom until the scrapyard, and it also happens to clean piston rings back to their original state.
The gift horse I've had is in the form of Mobil 1 products, which have been outstanding. They've been great for my engines.
I think the misunderstanding is that you have to run Valvoline Restore and Protect to have a clean engine. There are countless threads on here with engines that are clean as can be running a number of different oils.
I love that Valvoline Restore and Protect is an option. I applaud Valvoline for what appears so far to be a great new product. Really an amazing product. It looks like it will be wonderful for those who need it and/or choose it.
Agree! Mobil 1 makes great products.The gift horse I've had is in the form of Mobil 1 products, which have been outstanding. They've been great for my engines.
I think the misunderstanding is that you have to run Valvoline Restore and Protect to have a clean engine. There are countless threads on here with engines that are clean as can be running a number of different oils.
I love that Valvoline Restore and Protect is an option. I applaud Valvoline for what appears so far to be a great new product. Really an amazing product. It looks like it will be wonderful for those who need it and/or choose it.
Changing the oil every 6 months seems overkill unless you're only doing very short trip drives in cold weather. A '98 with 40K miles is an average of ~1500 miles a year. The C5 Vette owner's manual says 1 year OCIs is OK, or the OLM ... which ever pops up first.I have a '98 Vette with 40K miles. Oil changed every 6 months. The oil is absolutely clear. It's only been fed Mobil 1.
Or as an alternative, continue changing the oil in it every six months but catch it in a clean container and use it in another vehicle. That oil is AKA, Mobil 2Changing the oil every 6 months seems overkill unless you're only doing very short trip drives in cold weather. A '98 with 40K miles is an average of ~1500 miles a year. The C5 Vette owner's manual says 1 year OCIs is OK, or the OLM ... which ever pops up first.
I had a neighbor that had a Mazda RX3 that burned oil like crazy. One day I'm changing my oil and he comes over and asks if he can have my used oil. Saved me a trip to the auto parts store to dump used oil.Or as an alternative, continue changing the oil in it every six months but catch it in a clean container and use it in another vehicle. That oil is AKA, Mobil 2![]()
Based on the look on the gal's face he's with, he's probably not going home with either one ... that's scenario #3.Look at that picture very closely, meaning the 2 girls, can anyone guess what I am seeing, there are only 2 scenarios?
They should have said something like it "cleans with every oil change" (since there is no level of cleaning defined), since everyone here (and Mobil too) knows it's not going to clean a dirty engine in just one oil change. Most reading that statement will think that, taking it literally. Weasel worded advertising.It doesn’t say that on the bottle. Just says it cleans in 1 oil change.
Maybe they should have said "cleans a little bit in each oil change".And even if it just slightly cleans it up by 5% in one oil change then they can still say “cleans in one oil change”. Kinda shady marketing I think![]()
Relying on implications rather than specific claims. I clean up in one trip to the shower, but how well is anyone’s guess.They should have said something like it "cleans with every oil change" (since there is no level of cleaning defined), since everyone here (and Mobil too) knows it's not going to clean a dirty engine in just one oil change. Most reading that statement will think that, taking it literally. Weasel worded advertising.
Up to 100%?Relying on implications rather than specific claims. I clean up in one trip to the shower, but how well is anyone’s guess.![]()
Never cared much for the Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy oils. I think they should drop them personally. It's marketing. Noack for Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20/0w30 has never been great either.One Mobil oil that I've used for at least 2 years and would not recommend to anyone (and people on here don't recommend it either) is Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20. Anybody heared anything good about this oil?
This was the oil my car consumed the most and most likely made my engine dirty for only 5-6K miles. Also I had a fuel dilution issue (misfire) by that same time too that contributed to that oil performance.
I agree, but I must admit this...I ran the Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20 one time for about 5k in my 2018 Jeep and did a used oil analysis. It came back in great shape with very low wear metals. I can't fully remember, but I think I ran it because Walmart was out of EP and I needed to get it done ASAP before a trip. And I was curious, as well.Never cared much for the Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy oils. I think they should drop them personally. It's marketing. Noack for Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20/0w30 has never been great either.
The Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy oils were just the spin-out of the regular Mobil 1 0W-20 and 0W-30 into their own category for better exposure, from a formulation perspective, they are the same as the regular Mobil 1 product line, which means they should be as good as any other API/ILSAC Mobil 1 offering in that category.One Mobil oil that I've used for at least 2 years and would not recommend to anyone (and people on here don't recommend it either) is Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20. Anybody heared anything good about this oil?
This was the oil my car consumed the most and most likely made my engine dirty for only 5-6K miles. Also I had a fuel dilution issue (misfire) by that same time too that contributed to that oil performance.
Depends on the engine family too, some run clean and are easy on oil, some just don’t, as evidenced all over this site. Myself and others here have seen evidence of ring pack cleaning in our filters after switching to HPL, in engines that have seen diets of OTS oils like Mobil, Pennzoil, etc. by the marketing metrics these engines should be clean! Mind you I’m not talking about sludge or varnish cleaning, any decent oil can keep those at bay, just rings and pistons.The gift horse I've had is in the form of Mobil 1 products, which have been outstanding. They've been great for my engines.
I think the misunderstanding is that you have to run Valvoline Restore and Protect to have a clean engine. There are countless threads on here with engines that are clean as can be running a number of different oils.
I love that Valvoline Restore and Protect is an option. I applaud Valvoline for what appears so far to be a great new product. Really an amazing product. It looks like it will be wonderful for those who need it and/or choose it.
I've seen nothing good about it and poor used oil analysis here. I'd recommend avoiding it to everyone.Anybody heared anything good about this oil?