You think this will take the place of Mobil 1 Extended Performance? Or just a slight variation in the formula and a new product?My gut says slight EP formulation tweak for SQ and GF 7 and a name change.
You think this will take the place of Mobil 1 Extended Performance? Or just a slight variation in the formula and a new product?My gut says slight EP formulation tweak for SQ and GF 7 and a name change.
I guess we’ll see. Maybe XOM will test the waters first. I see no need for two 20k oils.You think this will take the place of Mobil 1 Extended Performance? Or just a slight variation in the formula and a new product?
Mobil 1 vanilla is 10k rated. Only EP and now Advance Clean are 20k rated. Mobil will still want a full range of good, better, best.The oil probably cleans very well, but why do you expect to clean the same way as Valvoline Restore and Protect?
I think this oil is the new vanilla or the main line of Mobil. If it was the new EP, why would you get rid of the EP instead of just add Advanced Clean along with it?
...and Mobil 1 Hybrid is 15K, i believe.Mobil 1 vanilla is 10k rated. Only EP and now Advance Clean are 20k rated. Mobil will still want a full range of good, better, best.
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I'd agree with that, but "cold" as I meant it is frigid like northern MN, so it's more of an extreme case.Actually, getting 25 miles a day is pretty easy duty because it gets warmed up fully each time. Try a 5 mile commute where the engine doesn´t get fully up to temp for more than a few minutes. That´s the tough one.
A cab that idles and is warm all day and never has any real load on it (how could it? It never get to go fast!) is actually the easiest duty an engine and oil can have.Good point! Some years ago (1990s?) Consumer Reports ran a long-term test comparing conventional oil to synthetic.
The test vehicles were NYC taxi cabs, which CR presented as the ultimate example of hard use.
CR tore down and inspected the engines after x number of miles, and, finding comparable wear, concluded that synthetic oil wasn't worth the extra cost.
Living in an area with cold winters, I was skeptical that an engine in a mild climate that was run almost always at operating temperature was subjected to worse conditions than an engine that was frequently cold-started and short-tripped, as is often the case here.
You think this will take the place of Mobil 1 Extended Performance? Or just a slight variation in the formula and a new product?
Not a bad idea. Complete with Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 25k.I dont see any way they ditch EP not after 20 years. If anything EP will become a 25k mile oil
That’s an interesting direction because why create something that could compete with sales of EP; unless it’s literally just to expand the Mobil 1 portfolio? Valvoline Restore and Protect may be effecting sales to that effect so it’s worth dropping a new line that markets itself as a competitor indirectly in name alone. It makes sense to get more eyes and buyers on their brand even if some EP users swap that would otherwise consider using Valvoline Restore and Protect or vice versa (a possible Valvoline Restore and Protect buyer sees Advanced Clean first vs a competitor doing same thing, but doesn’t dig into details, just buys off the label etc)Not a bad idea. Complete with Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 25k.
It would be the similarities to EP that have me wondering - why do you need both Advanced Clean and EP in the line up ?Mobil 1 vanilla is 10k rated. Only EP and now Advance Clean are 20k rated. Mobil will still want a full range of good, better, best.
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Yeah I doubt they drop Mobil 1 Extended Performance. Too many loyal customers.I dont see any way they ditch EP not after 20 years. If anything EP will become a 25k mile oil
It is getting crazyI'd rather Advanced Clean replace EP. Too many oils IMO.