Mobil 1 "Advanced Clean" 5w-30

[ndarkside93]

And something more is not better for seals and gaskets!

Most likely not. I wouldn’t be surprised if from a marketing perspective they market it as a use it for a few oil changes type of product but not intended for continued use

 

[travis8352]

I thought it was a cleaner as well. I shoulda have known he was referring to post 13 when he said the organo moly line was the primary antioxidant lol

 

[oilstained]

Most likely not. I wouldn’t be surprised if from a marketing perspective they market it as a use it for a few oil changes type of product but not intended for continued use

Otherwise, it could have been named Clean & “Protect” for continued use.

 

[Hohn]

ADD fuel dilution to that comment. Having one or both top rings jammed are an issue.

I think it's more the case the fuel dilution leads to jammed rings, not that jammed rings lead to dilution.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Wish he tested Hybrid too, folks speculate it fights moisture. Claims 15,000 miles too

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Iirc oils made for hybrids can emulsify water. That's their big advantage.

 

[scrllock]

Iirc oils made for hybrids can emulsify water. That's their big advantage.

That's a requirement of any API approved oil at least back to SN.

 

[Sienna dude]

Until Lake does another test to show what makes Mobil 1 Hybrid different than the rest of their lineup, Mobil 1 haters will keep parroting the "Marketing", just like they did to Truck & SUV for years.

 

[Mainia]

I think it's more the case the fuel dilution leads to jammed rings, not that jammed rings lead to dilution.

Could be...............any white papers on the matter, or anyone in the industry can chime in if they know if this could be the case as a "common knowledge" issue ??

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Until Lake does another test to show what makes Mobil 1 Hybrid different than the rest of their lineup, Mobil 1 haters will keep parroting the "Marketing", just like they did to Truck & SUV for years.

Engineering Explained did one

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

That's a requirement of any API approved oil at least back to SN.

Citation?

 

[scrllock]

Citation?

Afton Handbook, 2019.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Afton Handbook, 2019.

The test is for 24 hours per the manual. Perhaps hybrid oils retain an emulsion for longer?

 

[Sienna dude]

Engineering Explained did one

Will check it. Thanks!

 

[scrllock]

The test is for 24 hours per the manual. Perhaps hybrid oils retain an emulsion for longer?

No idea, you said oils for hybrids can emulsify water. Just pointing out that almost any modern oil can do that. Is there a hybrid-specific spec that has stricter requirements?

 

[Sienna dude]

No idea, you said oils for hybrids can emulsify water. Just pointing out that almost any modern oil can do that. Is there a hybrid-specific spec that has stricter requirements?

Mobil 1 EP resists oil breakdown. Truck & SUV does it better than the whole lineup. Maybe Hybrid deals with water better than the whole lineup?

 

[ChrisD46]

ADD fuel dilution to that comment. Having one or both top rings jammed are an issue.

I’m beginning to think the majority of people who drive with a GDI engine should be using VR&P.

 

[Hohn]

Could be...............any white papers on the matter, or anyone in the industry can chime in if they know if this could be the case as a "common knowledge" issue ??

I think it was buried in an LSJr video, can't find it now.

 

[scrllock]

Mobil 1 EP resists oil breakdown. Truck & SUV does it better than the whole lineup. Maybe Hybrid deals with water better than the whole lineup?

Maybe AFE does. Do you have data suggesting otherwise?

 

[Sienna dude]

Maybe AFE does. Do you have data suggesting otherwise?

Truck & SUV does better than EP. I assume it beats AFE too. Like I said before, from Lake's video, now I take labels on Mobil jugs very seriously. AFE and Truck & SUV both have a viscosity of 8.2, I assume Truck & SUV loses viscosity less under heat and stress compared to AFE that makes no less oil breakdown claims.

See, no claims related to oil breakdown

 

[scrllock]

Truck & SUV does better than EP. I assume it beats AFE too. Like I said before, from Lake's video, now I take labels on Mobil jugs very seriously. AFE and Truck & SUV both have a viscosity of 8.2, I assume Truck & SUV loses viscosity less under heat and stress compared to AFE that makes no less oil breakdown claims.

See, no claims related to oil breakdown

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All of that is marketing weasel wording.

"Helps increase"
"Helps fight sludge"


Even if you take the bottle marketing at face value, where is the Hybrid bottle saying "helps hold water in emulsification 2x longer!"?

Sounds like it's mostly optimistic projection onto a marketing strategy. Zero data, just hopes and dreams.