Mobil 1 5w30 ESP - What is the correct application???? Benefit/Harm?

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They gave it away in their product guide. Read column 5 across from 5w30 ESP. But really, who cares. It’s big brother, 0w40 ESP is the Corvette oil. They are both Dexos 2.
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0W40 ESP is really not "big brother." HTHS of ESP is 3.53. There are VW 504.00/507.00 oils with higher HTHS (Motul X-Clean+ 5W30 has 3.6).
VW504.00/507.00 is much tougher spec. than Dexos2.
 
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I was thinking of running the Mobil 1 5w30 ESP in my 2000 Toyota Celica GT-S with the 2ZZ engine. The Celica is just a summer toy and at this point it only has 29,000 miles, but it is a very high reving engine, so I figured the ESP "might" offer a touch extra protection over the regular Mobil 1 5w30 that has been run in the car for the last twenty years. At this point if I put 400-500 miles a year on the Celica, that's a lot, so cost is not a big deal.
Use Mobil1 0W40 FS in that vehicle.
 
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To be honest, it was developed for diesel vehicles with Diesel Particulate filters. (DPF). Then the marketing guys ran down to the lab and asked what else can it to.
“ Well, it can reduce harm to your catalytic converter.” “OK, we’ll put that in the ad”.:D
Not just for DPF.....in vw 507 part of the spec.....

But also for GPF in vw 504...
 
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So, basically it is a HDEO that was approved for PCMO use? Isn't there a Shell product that does something similar?
ACEA C3.....ash 0.8max HTHS 3.5min
ACEA C4.....ash 0.5max HTHS 3.5min
C2-C1-C5....I am not interested because that are "CAFE" specs :)

ACEA E4/E7(full saps HDEO) .....ash 1.5?-2.0...HTHS 3.5min
ACEA E6/E9(low saps HDEO)....ash 0.9-1.1....HTHS 3.5min
 
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It reduces dramatically deposits on intake valves in direct injection engines. It is VW504.00/507.00, dual gas/diesel specification from the beginning of development. I worked on development of VW504.00/507.00 oil. Specification was developed for dual use from beginning since VW at that time was introducing FSI and TFSI engines in Europe (2003-2005 timeframe). It is very tough specification wear wise, and hardly anything surpass it in that discipline.
It is the toughest VW approval to date. Nothing else in the VW/Audi portfolio can match the wear limits of VW504.00/507.00
 
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I think we need to see a paper on “ dramatically reduced deposits.” VW has a poor record in the honesty department.
Yeah, not sure about deposits especially after watching a couple videos of guys using 504 exclusively, and after 10K on the odo and 20K miles on the odo (5k mile oci), they already had deposits on the intake valves. Could just be anecdotal though.
 

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OP, best to answer the question “what is the incorrect application of M1 5W30 ESP”

Given it’s a low SAPS and low TBN oil, the wrong application would be a long OCI (oil change interval) while running high sulphur fuel. If this isn’t you then you should be fine in a regular gas engined car.
 
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I currently have m1 0w40 FS in my 05 Silverado V8, but I would prefer 0w40 ESP if it was available to me for the same price. I pay half price on sale for the euro formula.

The ESP would be safer for my catalytic converter. In my Oldsmobile with a 76 350 V8 I'll stick with the 0w40 FS though.
 
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