Mobil 1 0-40w in a 2006 Ford 6.0L????

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Been reading a few posts. I take from the posts I could use M-1 40w in my diesel yet it doesn't have the API rating called for by Ford. I have a 2006 6.0 that runs like a dream. I have been considering using 10w30 as well.

Any information to clear up the API rating of M-1 40w versus Ford specs would help.
 
you need a diesel rated oil. I wouldnt use 0w40

in M1 you would want 5w40 truck &suv

rotella t5 10w30
rotella t6 5w40

there are other options.. I'd stick with a 5w40.
The 10w30 is semi-syn and only a couple dollars cheaper per gallon.
 
Yep...If you're an M1 fan, then the 5W40 Turbo-Diesel/Truck would be ideal...and the above-mentioned choices are excellent as well...
 
The TDT has been a long time favorite of mine but sometimes hard to find. VEB and T6 are proven performers for me as well. Guess I'll keep it simple: Good filters, a good by-pass filter, routine changes @ 7500. DONE!!

I still get TONS of good info from the board. Wish I had a grasp on the science side of oil like some do here.
 
That truck will run many miles on Rotella 10w30. M1 TDT is very good, it can allow you to get your money's worth out of it. You can extend the drain on that oil. Rotella 5w40 will great work as well.

Everytime I write about "synthetics" I am actually afraid (BITOG member) DNewton will rip me a new one. He has been making people cry lately for choosing syn over conventional....lol
 
Originally Posted By: HeavyAssault06
Been reading a few posts. I take from the posts I could use M-1 40w in my diesel yet it doesn't have the API rating called for by Ford. I have a 2006 6.0 that runs like a dream. I have been considering using 10w30 as well.

Any information to clear up the API rating of M-1 40w versus Ford specs would help.


http://www.mobiloil.com/usa-english/motoroil/oils/mobil_1_0w-40.aspx#

M1 0w-40 is a CF rated oil, which is a pretty old oil standard, CI and CJ-4 are designed to handle the soot produced by the higher horsepower engines and EGR. Personally in a 6.0 I would run 10w-30...more shear stable with good cold start up properties.
 
It's not acceptable for the 6.0L PSD.

To the OP:
If you're not going to extend your OCIs, may I suggest either a 15w-40 or 10w-30 conventional oil.

It doesn't get cold enough in VA to warrant a synthetic.
 
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Maybe he's not worried about the Cold?

Personally I wouldn't run a conventional in anything with a turbocharger. Consider the cost of a new turbo vs the cost difference between T5 and T6, enough said.

But really before anyone should be giving advice, how far from stock is this truck.
 
Originally Posted By: bepperb
Maybe he's not worried about the Cold?

Personally I wouldn't run a conventional in anything with a turbocharger. Consider the cost of a new turbo vs the cost difference between T5 and T6, enough said.

But really before anyone should be giving advice, how far from stock is this truck.


Why? Hundreds of thousands of turbodiesels only run conventional without any apparent mass rash of failures.

The He351 on my 04.5 Cummins had 205k on it when I sold it...it saw 48psi (with a map range in the mid thirties) and I never had an issue with it running mostly rotella. Maybe in a high horsepower application synthetics are required but in a stock or mild modded turbo-diesel conventional works fine IMHO.
 
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My Highlander has 85,000 miles and hasn't been in an accident. I don't use that as proof that people shouldn't buy insurance. A story is just that, it's one thing that happened one time. A sample size of one isn't terribly useful, except to prove something is possible.

So not knowing how the truck is modded and how it's driven I think it's strange people make recommendations at all. Obviously they aren't very concerned about the original poster, they are just conventional oil people out looking for threads to post in. It goes both ways and there are probably even more boutique synthetic fans out there.

Again, personally I wouldn't use a conventional in something with an oil cooled turbocharger. Historically my cars have done quite well on conventional, I'm not biased towards synthetic.
 
Originally Posted By: bepperb

Personally I wouldn't run a conventional in anything with a turbocharger. Consider the cost of a new turbo vs the cost difference between T5 and T6, enough said.



In a turbo'ed gasoline engine, I always recommend synthetic.
But in a turbodiesel, conventional HDEO is fine. Peak diesel EGT's are 400-500F lower than in a gasoline engine. For a hot-rodded diesel running temps over 1450F, it should be on synthetic. But it doesn't really matter; pistons will burn before the lube breaks down.
 
Originally Posted By: bepperb
My Highlander has 85,000 miles and hasn't been in an accident. I don't use that as proof that people shouldn't buy insurance. A story is just that, it's one thing that happened one time. A sample size of one isn't terribly useful, except to prove something is possible.

So not knowing how the truck is modded and how it's driven I think it's strange people make recommendations at all. Obviously they aren't very concerned about the original poster, they are just conventional oil people out looking for threads to post in. It goes both ways and there are probably even more boutique synthetic fans out there.

Again, personally I wouldn't use a conventional in something with an oil cooled turbocharger. Historically my cars have done quite well on conventional, I'm not biased towards synthetic.


I never said anybody was anti-conventional, pro-synthetic or anything of that sort.

Since I lacked the statistics on the rate of turbocharger failures on light to heavy duty trucks, I referenced my experience with turbos and conventional oil. Like mentioned above a turbo gas and a turbodiesel operating conditions are two totally different animals and numerous types of diesel engines put hundreds of thousands of miles on conventional oil. Based on my amateur observation turbo failure is fairly low, though I do know the VGT turbos are prone to sticking but that has nothing to do with oil. So to imply that T6 will protect his turbo better than T5 doesn't make sense to me.

And by the by, in my recommendation to the OP I just said 10w-30...I never mentioned conventional, blend or synthetic. The only thing I said not to do was not to run the Mobil 1 0w-40 cause it is a CF oil and the Ford 6.0 requires a CI rated oil at min.
 
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Originally Posted By: HeavyAssault06
Been reading a few posts. I take from the posts I could use M-1 40w in my diesel yet it doesn't have the API rating called for by Ford. I have a 2006 6.0 that runs like a dream. I have been considering using 10w30 as well.

Any information to clear up the API rating of M-1 40w versus Ford specs would help.


Don't take the discussions on the Japanese and Euro spec diesels to apply to a US designed/made engine.

The Euros and Japanese don't want the level of dispersants in the oil that the U.S. makers desire.

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Did you use the 0w40? What were the results?

I'm sure all the oils I've used protected my 2006 INTL 6.0L just fine, but the Valvoline Exteme Blue 5w-40 makes a noticable difference in the noise level, especially upon startup.

I live in a crowded urban area, leaving or returning from work sometimes midnight-4am; I'm very pleased at the reduced noise levels which I assume are the injectors working a little better.
 
Originally Posted By: rufushusky
Originally Posted By: bepperb
Maybe he's not worried about the Cold?

Personally I wouldn't run a conventional in anything with a turbocharger. Consider the cost of a new turbo vs the cost difference between T5 and T6, enough said.

But really before anyone should be giving advice, how far from stock is this truck.


Why? Hundreds of thousands of turbodiesels only run conventional without any apparent mass rash of failures.

The He351 on my 04.5 Cummins had 205k on it when I sold it...it saw 48psi (with a map range in the mid thirties) and I never had an issue with it running mostly rotella. Maybe in a high horsepower application synthetics are required but in a stock or mild modded turbo-diesel conventional works fine IMHO.

It depends on the engine design. I meet people that have plenty of trouble with the 6.0 PSD, but not so many people have trouble with a CTD 5.9.
 
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Originally Posted By: rufushusky
Originally Posted By: bepperb
Maybe he's not worried about the Cold?

Personally I wouldn't run a conventional in anything with a turbocharger. Consider the cost of a new turbo vs the cost difference between T5 and T6, enough said.

But really before anyone should be giving advice, how far from stock is this truck.


Why? Hundreds of thousands of turbodiesels only run conventional without any apparent mass rash of failures.

The He351 on my 04.5 Cummins had 205k on it when I sold it...it saw 48psi (with a map range in the mid thirties) and I never had an issue with it running mostly rotella. Maybe in a high horsepower application synthetics are required but in a stock or mild modded turbo-diesel conventional works fine IMHO.

It depends on the engine design. I meet people that have plenty of trouble with the 6.0 PSD, but not so many people have trouble with a CTD 5.9.


Yes, the 6.0 does have the reputation of a problematic turbo it more due to complication from excess soot and VGTs sticking...no oil will fix that.
 
Originally Posted By: rufushusky
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Originally Posted By: rufushusky
Originally Posted By: bepperb
Maybe he's not worried about the Cold?

Personally I wouldn't run a conventional in anything with a turbocharger. Consider the cost of a new turbo vs the cost difference between T5 and T6, enough said.

But really before anyone should be giving advice, how far from stock is this truck.


Why? Hundreds of thousands of turbodiesels only run conventional without any apparent mass rash of failures.

The He351 on my 04.5 Cummins had 205k on it when I sold it...it saw 48psi (with a map range in the mid thirties) and I never had an issue with it running mostly rotella. Maybe in a high horsepower application synthetics are required but in a stock or mild modded turbo-diesel conventional works fine IMHO.

It depends on the engine design. I meet people that have plenty of trouble with the 6.0 PSD, but not so many people have trouble with a CTD 5.9.


Yes, the 6.0 does have the reputation of a problematic turbo it more due to complication from excess soot and VGTs sticking...no oil will fix that.


I disagree with this statement, a good fully synthetic oil such as T-6 will help keep soot in suspension and cool the bearings better as well as varnish reduction.
 
The issues with the Vgts on the 6.0 relate to exhaust soot clogging up the fins and actuarors in the turbo exhaust housing. No oil of any kind will fix that.
 
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