MMO + TC-W3 Combo
- Thread starter ChrisD46
- Start date
- Status
Originally Posted By: NismoMax80
what tcw3 brand are you using?
I'm just surprised I cannot find comparisons of dino, semi, and full syn. Or does it truly not matter at such tiny ratios?
Honestly I doubt it matters in this dilution rate. Maybe a premium syn would be required if a person had super sensitive sensors however I've yet to foul an o2 sensor in the years and thousands upon thousands of miles I've used it in.
what tcw3 brand are you using?
I'm just surprised I cannot find comparisons of dino, semi, and full syn. Or does it truly not matter at such tiny ratios?
Honestly I doubt it matters in this dilution rate. Maybe a premium syn would be required if a person had super sensitive sensors however I've yet to foul an o2 sensor in the years and thousands upon thousands of miles I've used it in.
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
I use MMO (960:1) and TC-W3 (1920:1) primarily just to get a little more lubrication and cleaning to the Top Tier gas I use . This ratio also provided best MPG for my vehicle (1 - 2 MPG greater) . : http://www.csgnetwork.com/oilfuelcalc.html
Thanks for the advice and the calculator. Getting ready to try this mixture (AMSOIL Saber Outboard +MMO) Going to do 1.8 oz per 10 gallons of gas of the mixture. If I have it figured right I mix .33 oz TCW3 and .66 oz of MMO. I think I have a gallon jug of MMO left, so I will do 1 quart of TCW3 and 1/2 gallon of MMO. If I have everything figured right.
I use MMO (960:1) and TC-W3 (1920:1) primarily just to get a little more lubrication and cleaning to the Top Tier gas I use . This ratio also provided best MPG for my vehicle (1 - 2 MPG greater) . : http://www.csgnetwork.com/oilfuelcalc.html
Thanks for the advice and the calculator. Getting ready to try this mixture (AMSOIL Saber Outboard +MMO) Going to do 1.8 oz per 10 gallons of gas of the mixture. If I have it figured right I mix .33 oz TCW3 and .66 oz of MMO. I think I have a gallon jug of MMO left, so I will do 1 quart of TCW3 and 1/2 gallon of MMO. If I have everything figured right.
Originally Posted By: msparks
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
I use MMO (960:1) and TC-W3 (1920:1) primarily just to get a little more lubrication and cleaning to the Top Tier gas I use . This ratio also provided best MPG for my vehicle (1 - 2 MPG greater) . : http://www.csgnetwork.com/oilfuelcalc.html
Thanks for the advice and the calculator. Getting ready to try this mixture (AMSOIL Saber Outboard +MMO) Going to do 1.8 oz per 10 gallons of gas of the mixture. If I have it figured right I mix .33 oz TCW3 and .66 oz of MMO. I think I have a gallon jug of MMO left, so I will do 1 quart of TCW3 and 1/2 gallon of MMO. If I have everything figured right.
That sounds like a good mix!
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
I use MMO (960:1) and TC-W3 (1920:1) primarily just to get a little more lubrication and cleaning to the Top Tier gas I use . This ratio also provided best MPG for my vehicle (1 - 2 MPG greater) . : http://www.csgnetwork.com/oilfuelcalc.html
Thanks for the advice and the calculator. Getting ready to try this mixture (AMSOIL Saber Outboard +MMO) Going to do 1.8 oz per 10 gallons of gas of the mixture. If I have it figured right I mix .33 oz TCW3 and .66 oz of MMO. I think I have a gallon jug of MMO left, so I will do 1 quart of TCW3 and 1/2 gallon of MMO. If I have everything figured right.
That sounds like a good mix!
Your welcome ! ...For reference again , standard MMO rate = 320:1 and TC-W3 standard rate (suggested) = 640:1 . To see what's best for you may require a weaker or stronger concentration than the 960:1 (MMO) and 1920:1 (TC-W3) ...At any rate , my I4 engine responds well to the mixture and has to be better than running standard unleaded / E10 stuff with no additional lube.
Last edited:
MrQuackers
Site Donor 2025
OK, so I mix 1 part TC-W3 and 2 parts MMO in a jug and how much do I put in for each 5 gallons of gasoline? I currently use about 1 ounce of ST TC-W3 per 5 gallons of gasoline in my SL2
Originally Posted By: MrQuackers
OK, so I mix 1 part TC-W3 and 2 parts MMO in a jug and how much do I put in for each 5 gallons of gasoline? I currently use about 1 ounce of ST TC-W3 per 5 gallons of gasoline in my SL2
When I ran the numbers, it came out to 1 oz of the mixture per 5 gallons of gasoline and that's what I'm currently trying out in both of the cars in my sig.
OK, so I mix 1 part TC-W3 and 2 parts MMO in a jug and how much do I put in for each 5 gallons of gasoline? I currently use about 1 ounce of ST TC-W3 per 5 gallons of gasoline in my SL2
When I ran the numbers, it came out to 1 oz of the mixture per 5 gallons of gasoline and that's what I'm currently trying out in both of the cars in my sig.
I came out to 1oz of TCW3 and 2 oz of MMO in 15.5 gallons for my Acura. Hope that's correct. Although I have a 18.3 capacity fuel tank I only have 3 oz bottles readily available to use so this seems easier. I just have to make sure to not fill it up all the way. At least not always.
After I started mixing my brew I then started to wonder if I should 1/2 the dose of TCW3 since I'm running a 100:1 formulation. Should I use a 3840:1 for the AMSOIL Saber Outboard?
Since I was already mixed up I topped the jugs off with MMO and will try the 1.8 oz per 10 gallons and see what happens.
Since I was already mixed up I topped the jugs off with MMO and will try the 1.8 oz per 10 gallons and see what happens.
Kms.
As far as fuel goes I mix 1 ounce of tc-w3 and 1/4 quart acetone per 5 gallons gasoline. That concentration has proven to me to be the point of maximum return of expenditure.
As far as fuel goes I mix 1 ounce of tc-w3 and 1/4 quart acetone per 5 gallons gasoline. That concentration has proven to me to be the point of maximum return of expenditure.
I recently added 1oz of 2 stroke oil per 5 gallons of gas in the 4 vehicles I own (02 530i, 99 Jeep Cherokee, 09 Outback and 02 Bravada). The "butt dyno" noticed quieter operation and easier startup. The only one I'm tracking gas mileage on right now is the Bravada which is up slightly. I've used MMO on/off throughout the years and as an earlier poster mentioned, too much of it and I noticed a drop in mileage and I think performance. I'll continue to run this for another month or so and track mileage/performance.
Originally Posted By: edvanp
I recently added 1oz of 2 stroke oil per 5 gallons of gas in the 4 vehicles I own (02 530i, 99 Jeep Cherokee, 09 Outback and 02 Bravada). The "butt dyno" noticed quieter operation and easier startup. The only one I'm tracking gas mileage on right now is the Bravada which is up slightly. I've used MMO on/off throughout the years and as an earlier poster mentioned, too much of it and I noticed a drop in mileage and I think performance. I'll continue to run this for another month or so and track mileage/performance.
You will see a drop in power and a loss of mpg with an OD of MMO. The same is true with TCW3, however an OD of TCW3 is more likely to foul plugs than MMO is. Mixing the two is a nice combo, or using either product as a stand alone works well too. In an older tired engine TCW3 works very well, I believe it makes for a better ring seal than MMO which is why so many people claim they feel an improved idle and a bit more power. Sorry its anecdotal I haven't run any scientific testing, and to tell you the truth I really wouldn't care what the results would be. There are enough people having positive experiences to make it worth trying.
I recently added 1oz of 2 stroke oil per 5 gallons of gas in the 4 vehicles I own (02 530i, 99 Jeep Cherokee, 09 Outback and 02 Bravada). The "butt dyno" noticed quieter operation and easier startup. The only one I'm tracking gas mileage on right now is the Bravada which is up slightly. I've used MMO on/off throughout the years and as an earlier poster mentioned, too much of it and I noticed a drop in mileage and I think performance. I'll continue to run this for another month or so and track mileage/performance.
You will see a drop in power and a loss of mpg with an OD of MMO. The same is true with TCW3, however an OD of TCW3 is more likely to foul plugs than MMO is. Mixing the two is a nice combo, or using either product as a stand alone works well too. In an older tired engine TCW3 works very well, I believe it makes for a better ring seal than MMO which is why so many people claim they feel an improved idle and a bit more power. Sorry its anecdotal I haven't run any scientific testing, and to tell you the truth I really wouldn't care what the results would be. There are enough people having positive experiences to make it worth trying.
I don't have any scientific testing, or even solid anecdotal evidence of my own about MPG since there are so many variables involved in fuel consumption, but I think another BITOG member either did some backyard testing or found some research that showed how two stroke oils in gasoline can improve some quality of the combustion, and we speculated that this may be one way it improves idle quality in older engines.
MrQuackers
Site Donor 2025
Originally Posted By: BearZDefect
I don't have any scientific testing, or even solid anecdotal evidence of my own about MPG since there are so many variables involved in fuel consumption, but I think another BITOG member either did some backyard testing or found some research that showed how two stroke oils in gasoline can improve some quality of the combustion, and we speculated that this may be one way it improves idle quality in older engines.
Been Testing
I don't have any scientific testing, or even solid anecdotal evidence of my own about MPG since there are so many variables involved in fuel consumption, but I think another BITOG member either did some backyard testing or found some research that showed how two stroke oils in gasoline can improve some quality of the combustion, and we speculated that this may be one way it improves idle quality in older engines.
Been Testing
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked