I want to upgrade the OE rubber (Bridgestone Ecopias) on my 2023 Escape ST with 19" rims. I've had CrossClimates before was satisfied. However I've noticed the Pilots and the do come in my size. Winter here in Atlanta can be fairly mild and we don't get that much really cold weather. What's folks thoughts on the question? Thanks
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 SUV vs. CrossClimate2
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The Pilot Sport 4 SUV is a summer only tire, so between the two, get the CC2, especially if you already like them 
Will you still need to drive the car in the cold/snow? Do you work remotely or would otherwise be able to stay in and not need to use the car when it's under 40 degrees? You shouldn't use summer tires under 40F.
You'd probably be good with the Pilot Sport All Season 4 (PSAS4), which is not the same as the PS4SUV or the PS4S
Will you still need to drive the car in the cold/snow? Do you work remotely or would otherwise be able to stay in and not need to use the car when it's under 40 degrees? You shouldn't use summer tires under 40F.
You'd probably be good with the Pilot Sport All Season 4 (PSAS4), which is not the same as the PS4SUV or the PS4S
I run the Pilot Sport 4S summer tires on our GS350 Sport. Great rubber, but they are, of course, a soft compound.
I put the Pilot AS on our '06 TSX; love those tires. The GS will get them next time.
My guess is, the difference is only at the extremes, which you probably don't experience in your Escape.
I put the Pilot AS on our '06 TSX; love those tires. The GS will get them next time.
My guess is, the difference is only at the extremes, which you probably don't experience in your Escape.
On those rare days when it's icy or snowy in Atlanta, are you prepared to not drive the car? If so, go with Pilot Sports.
Thanks all. No Pete, the car needs to be available no matter the weather. The car looks great, inside and out. The one thing that distracts are the tires. There's "no fizz". On my old Mariner with nice wheels, both the CrossClimates and Scorpion Verdes they looked great
Then the answer is easy.
Keep in mind, CC2 is good, but it does have some downsides, mainly more noisy and will negatively impact your fuel economy, compared to most OE tires.
Cross climate for your application
Or the bridgestones as bad as people say they are?
Driving on snow with summers is not a big problem, I've done it a couple times. Normal here when everyone switches from summer to winter every year.
Stopping is the problem
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Why not normal A/S tires? CC2 seems like overkill looking at average snowfall and temps for Atlanta.
Stopping is the problem
.Why not normal A/S tires? CC2 seems like overkill looking at average snowfall and temps for Atlanta.
I never had ecopias but I never had any issues w the Bridgestones I’ve used. I have duelers on my truck right now and they are very good
Those are 2 strange tires to compare.
The Escape ST came with ecopias???
What are you looking for in a new tire? Although anything will probably be a hit in MPG.. some more than others.
I'd be looking at tires such as pirelli scorpion AS 3 plus or Continental lx25
if you want sportier than that.. give us some priorities as far as what you want from tires.
CC2 are great but very much a do everything compromise.
The Escape ST came with ecopias???
What are you looking for in a new tire? Although anything will probably be a hit in MPG.. some more than others.
I'd be looking at tires such as pirelli scorpion AS 3 plus or Continental lx25
if you want sportier than that.. give us some priorities as far as what you want from tires.
CC2 are great but very much a do everything compromise.
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This. The little amount the vehicle is going to see of snow in ATL is not really worth going to CC2s. Look at the AS3+ or LX25. Or even Defenders.Those are 2 strange tires to compare.
The Escape ST came with ecopias???
What are you looking for in a new tire? Although anything will probably be a hit in MPG.. some more than others.
I'd be looking at tires such as pirelli scorpion AS 3 plus or Continental lx25
if you want sportier than that.. give us some priorities as far as what you want from tires.
CC2 are great but very much a do everything compromise.
They are bad as they say.
Honestly, the Ecopia line are terrible tires. They came OE on our ‘21 CX9 and were toast by 30k. I installed them on an ‘09 Honda Accord years earlier and was similarly disappointed.
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CC2. Unless you want to find out how is to have a car behaving like it has skies on when ice storm hits ATL. Appropriate option for ATL would be Pilot Sport 4 A/S
Why would anyone bother running a summer performance tire to street drive a C/SUV? I'd get an all season. Look at the PSAS4...hard to believe anyone would outdrive that tire in a vehicle like this on a public road. CC2 would be fine too.
I also wober why so many small SUV have a Z rated tire.....seems that a speed rating of an H would be plenty...
I'll take a look at the Pirellis and Continentals. I had a set of Scorpion Verde all seasons on my old Mariner and they were good. Continental come with a free, first year road hazard policy and that paid off a couple of times on my wife's car
