Michelin CrossClimate 2 (puncture issues)

[Soobs]

I’m on my second set of Michelin CrossClimate2 tires. I had to replace the previous set prematurely due to excessive punctures and one finally being too close to the sidewall which required a whole net set for my AWD car. I haven’t had the new set long and we just got another puncture today.

While we’ve certainly had to patch/plug tires in the past I have never had so many with one set of tires before. This all started happening when we switched to these. Great tire, but I’m not sure if I’m just running into bad luck or if the wider tread pattern on these just allows them to uptake a nail or sharp object easier? This is getting expensive and time consuming.

 

[hrv]

I call it bad luck and not the tires...

 

[UG_Passat]

43k for me on CC2 and no issues with punctures

 

[skyactiv]

Look at the number of tread plies on Michelin tires vs Goodyear. Michelin often has two less plies than Goodyears do. I’m no fan of Goodyear.

 

[Blueshound]

I’m on my second set of Michelin CrossClimate2 tires. I had to replace the previous set prematurely due to excessive punctures and one finally being too close to the sidewall which required a whole net set for my AWD car. I haven’t had the new set long and we just got another puncture today.

While we’ve certainly had to patch/plug tires in the past I have never had so many with one set of tires before. This all started happening when we switched to these. Great tire, but I’m not sure if I’m just running into bad luck or if the wider tread pattern on these just allows them to uptake a nail or sharp object easier? This is getting expensive and time consuming.

What was the source of the punctures? All the same or different sharp things?

 

[Soobs]

What was the source of the punctures? All the same or different sharp things?

A variety. Bolts, nails, and random sharp metal objects.

 

[Soobs]

I call it bad luck and not the tires...

I assumed as much, but I need new tires on our second vehicle soon. It’s my intent to get the CrossClimate 2 on it as well, but I haven’t had a puncture on the current set ever (Michelin Primacy or Premier.. I forget without going to look) and I’m down to 3/32nd on them. Biggest difference between these two vehicles is one is my mostly work commuter and the one with all the punctures has been the kid hauler. So anyway, just making sure this isn’t a thing folks with this tire are seeing en masse before I shell out the money for them again.

 

[Jetronic]

The tread, when new-ish, seems to collect more stones than any other tyre. It stands to reason that it will also pick up metal objects of a compatible size, and I suspect given enough revolutions some might cause a puncture.

After the tread wears some, they don't collect debris anymore. That said, I never pnctured mine (original CC, not cc+, not cc2)

 

[Rand]

Look at the number of tread plies on Michelin tires vs Goodyear. Michelin often has two less plies than Goodyears do. I’m no fan of Goodyear.

Internal construction of the CrossClimate2 consists of a two-ply polyester casing supporting two steel belts. A polyamide reinforcement is added to further enhance high-speed stability and performance.

Internal construction of the Assurance WeatherReady utilizes a single-ply polyester casing. Two wide, steel belts support the tread area, and a polyamide reinforcement aids handling response and high-speed capability.

looks like the michelin has "one more ply" but plies are outdated tire weight might be a better indicator.

in 225/60r17 the goodyear is 27lb
and the michelin is 26lb

Could you list example competitive tires that have 2 more plies.

For the OP: might be a combo. bad luck and tires slightly more prone.

I've had 3 or 4 punctures in a year.. then went 5+ years without any personally.

 

[CKN]

"Excessive Punctures".

That's a good one! When my truck gets less than shiny it has "excessive dirt".....

 

[Blueshound]

A variety. Bolts, nails, and random sharp metal objects.

Hmmm. Well, it's just one data point but our CX5 has about 7500 miles on CC2 with no flats. Daughter gets a flat twice a year no matter what tires.

 

[LDB]

I was set on the CC2 but have decided the Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3 is the one to beat. By the time (if) I need new tires there may be a new king by then but for now it's the Scorpion.

 

[Aus]

Literally just googled “Cross Climate” tires puncture resistance and found out this conversation. My story sounds the same. I bought CC for my Crv at Costco. Liked it until not. 5000 miles on this tires and already have 2 punctures. Somehow CC works like a magnet for screws. Definitely I won’t buy CC. I am a fan of Michelin yet this product is defective by nature. I strongly believe it is a lemon.

 

[troymcclure]

Third year with these tires. Had one puncture in the first year but nothing since.

 

[Kalle.J]

Maybe get some Contis with ContiSeal next time around, seems like you have alot of debris locally or something

 

[Aus]

Neh. I am ok with Michelin, but Cross Climate off the list for me. Interesting that initial post absolutely identical to my experience. About locally debris though, we have on average three cars at our household in the suburban area and only these tires are unlucky. Lol

 

[D1dad]

At 30-40% more than the lx 25 i'd maybe consider switching brands next time. Decent tires but when the cc2 was $1K and the lx 25 was $600 kind of seems like an easy choice. I have both and see nothing close to $400 worth of an upgrade with the michelins. In fact, I prefer the continentals for fuel mileage and overall comfort.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

What kind of roads do you drive on?

Do you have a crazy ex-girlfriend? Did you recently fire someone at work?

I don't think it matters what kind of tires you're driving on. Maybe you should take a detour so you don't keep driving on that same path.

You might also want to consider runflat tires. If you don't like runflats, or if it's an older car that doesn't have TPMS, consider the Cooper Enduramax that's supposed to be more durable, or the Contiseal that someone else mentioned. And whatever tires you replace them with, get the road hazard warranty

 

[DaveSwan]

I never had any flats with the CrossClimates on my car. However, the Continental Pro Contacts on my wife's car have been another story. Why? In her job she drives from school to school to contact classes and their maintenance trucks are always sropping nsils or screws

 

[meep]

My son lived in different apartments while he was away at school. Where he lived on year, he had a number of punctures and one tire replacement. There was a something in his commute from that location that was bad.

I experienced the same. In one year I had 7 punctures - drivers front received 5 of them. I got really good at pulling the nails out, on the car, without a jack, and inserting the little tar-coated pipe cleaner, a little rubber cement, followed by some heating with a match and trimming it off. Moved later and no more issues.

We had 2 cars running CC2s, probably for a total of 50k before both were sold/traded. They do pick up rocks. Didn’t have any punctures.

There’s a newer Pirelli - the AS/4. It looks better than the 3 and gets great reviews on Tirerack. I think it would be an excellent contender. The tribologist conjecture is wary that the Pirellis will lose wet grip at 50% of their tread wear, whereas the CC2 is known to last to the very end. Might still be worth the try - the Pirelli is supposed to be dead silent.