MAXLIFE SN

[electrolover]

i just picked up a jug of maxlife sn from walmart today. does anyone know the difference between it and the old sm?
the label looks a little different and the syn blend is off the label but thats all i can tell by the bottle.

 

[JDD]

I hope Valvo doesn't dumb down Maxlife for SN. The whole line of Maxlife products has been outstanding.

 

[electrolover]

yeah me too. i almost didnt buy it because im not sure what they did to it. they still have 10/30 in sm maybe i should grab the last jugs of it..

 

[dakota99]

An email from Valvoline states their maxlife product is still a blend, and was changed to meet SN specs. That's about all they would say.

 

[CharlieJ]

Is it still non-energy conserving?

 

[dakota99]

Well the new SN maxlife doesn't have the "Resource Conserving" part of the donut, so i would assume that means the same thing.

 

[mongo161]

You always wonder how much synthetic is actually in these blends. Just a thought....Maybe there is not enough synthetic in the oil to legally label it as a blend....so they don't put it on the label anymore. Sometimes they have to make label changes because of laws in different States and jurisdictions on deceptive advertising....who knows for sure.

I don't know if there is Moly in there anymore....they might have replaced the Moly with Titanium as the additive for MaxLife HM.

 

[electrolover]

shhooott you kiddin? if they put titanium in there it would be all over the bottle

 

[addyguy]

Moly count is WAY lower on the SN Maxlife - check the PDS.

 

[halseywales]

Originally Posted By: mongo161
You always wonder how much synthetic is actually in these blends. Just a thought....Maybe there is not enough synthetic in the oil to legally label it as a blend....so they don't put it on the label anymore. Sometimes they have to make label changes because of laws in different States and jurisdictions on deceptive advertising....who knows for sure.

I don't know if there is Moly in there anymore....they might have replaced the Moly with Titanium as the additive for MaxLife HM.


30% synthetic from old ads, that i know. Or at least it used to be.

And i wonder if the SM version of this is better than SN. Im new to oil, what is so great about this "SN" ? I saw SL on an old quart i had in my garage. Which one is the best, and why?

 

[electrolover]

thats a different topic all together...

to BITOG

 

[JDD]

Originally Posted By: addyguy
Moly count is WAY lower on the SN Maxlife - check the PDS.


Doesn't surprise me. I know a moly count doesn't mean anything by itself, but it's entirely possible the SN is not as good as SM. I find it very hard to believe that if it is a syn blend, that Ashland wouldn't put it on the label. Just doesn't make sense. Then again, neither does the large shelf space dedicated to their new Green bottle 50% recycled oil at Wal*Mart.

 

[ARB1977]

They only way to tell how good it is is to compare uoas between sn and sm versions.

 

[smithph]

Originally Posted By: ARB1977
They only way to tell how good it is is to compare uoas between sn and sm versions.


+1

While the new SN has about half the moly as the SM version, the old one never had anything close to Redlines reported 900's. We are talking about a move from a moly count of 200-250 depending on which SM VOA you look at to 117 in the SN. If you really want Moly in your favorite SN rated oil, just give it a booster shot of Lubro-Moly MoS2. With its 4400 moly count per 10 oz. That should raise the avg moly count in a 5 qt sump by about 270 plus a touch of boron.