Marvel Mystery Oil Rocks!!

[Russell]

Originally Posted By: c3po
Originally Posted By: Russell
does MMO offer upper cylinder lubrication? Seems it does.

For one thing, I want to quieten down a fuel pump-if posssible. Going to try some at a rate of 4 oz per 10 gallons of gas.

BTW, I tried Lucas ULC but not sure it did anything at all. FP seems to make car smoother. However, the cost is too much for me.


MMO does offer upper cylinder lubrication, I would suggest using a good fuel system cleaner like Redline and then going to the MMO.

The other thing I tell people is to make sure you fill up your gas tank when the fuel gauge is reading 1/4 a tank, the reason is that the gas in your tank cools the fuel pump, if its in your tank, if the fuel level gets to low then the fuel pump can get hot and you do not want the fuel pump sucking gas at the bottom of the tank if there is any debris at the bottom of the gas tank.


I have used Redline, Techron and Regane. Mostly used 93 octane Chevron fuel with Techron. Thanks for the keeping tank partially filled at all times. I try to do that.

 

[paulo57509]

The WM in my town has a habit of putting the same products on different aisles. The gallon jugs of MMO are with the other gallon jugs of oil. The pints and quarts of MMO are on the next aisle over next to the Gumout and STP.

 

[Scdevon]

My 4afe Corolla loves this stuff. I just put a couple of "glugs" in the tank when I fill it. Usually around 5 ozs with a 12 gallon refill. I just look at the measurements on the side of the bottle.

This is less than a 1/2 of 1% mix, but it's the MMO people recommend.

 

[XJ1100]

FYI for all the MMO lovers - I just picked up some at the local Menards on sale for $2.54 per qt. That comes out to $10.04 per gallon, which is even cheaper than WM.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: XJ1100
FYI for all the MMO lovers - I just picked up some at the local Menards on sale for $2.54 per qt. That comes out to $10.04 per gallon, which is even cheaper than WM.


Nice! I wish Menards was in the Long Island, NY area, I have about 24 or so qts on hand I'd buy more.

 

[friendly_jacek]

Do we know the ingredients? The MMO FAQ hints high sulfur contents:
Quote:
However, MMO does not comply with federal low sulfur content requirements for use in model year 2007 and newer diesel motor vehicles.


I also heard about phosphorus in MMO (antiwear).

If so, S can contribute to increased ring/bore wear and both S and P can contribute to cat poisoning.

Why I'm tempted to use some in oil for ring cleaning, I don't think it's a good idea to constantly run it in fuel.

 

[friendly_jacek]

never mind the ingredients, I found the MSDS info:
Quote:
chlorinated hydrocarbons, CAS# 95-50-1 0-1%, Napthenic hydrocarbons 70-80%, mineral spirits 20-30%.

 

[Russell]

Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
never mind the ingredients, I found the MSDS info:
Quote:
chlorinated hydrocarbons, CAS# 95-50-1 0-1%, Napthenic hydrocarbons 70-80%, mineral spirits 20-30%.

Someone please explain? Is this good, bad or indifferent to our engines? I am not clear at all

 

[demarpaint]

The stuff works, and works well. A few days ago a member posted some UOA reports where MMO was added and if you are a UOA believer they were great reports. There are a handful of people here who discredit MMO and other products any chance they get. As I've said before most of these people never used it. I have used it for over 35 years with great success. Since I am not a chemist, chemical components don't really mean much to me. It is the results that I get from using the product. I have a cleaner better running engine getting better MPG's, and the few UOA's I've seen were good too. I'm not much of a UOA fan, but as UOA's go they were quite good.

 

[Turk]

Right now it's $2.54 a quart at Menards...

 

[friendly_jacek]

I googled for 95-50-1
I got O-DICHLOROBENZENE
from http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/o-dichlorobenzene/recognition.html
Quote:

Incompatibilities: Contact between o-dichlorobenzene and strong oxidizers, chlorides, acids, acid fumes, hot aluminum, or aluminum alloys should be avoided.

Hazardous decomposition products: Toxic gases and vapors such as hydrogen chloride, chlorine, and carbon monoxide may be released in a fire involving o-dichlorobenzene.


Again, I would not use it for a long time, especially in aluminium engine.

Then there is also this site with good info on chlorinated hydrocarbons lubrication:

http://www.qmimo.com/chlorine.htm

 

[c3po]

Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
I googled for 95-50-1
I got O-DICHLOROBENZENE
from http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/o-dichlorobenzene/recognition.html
Quote:

Incompatibilities: Contact between o-dichlorobenzene and strong oxidizers, chlorides, acids, acid fumes, hot aluminum, or aluminum alloys should be avoided.

Hazardous decomposition products: Toxic gases and vapors such as hydrogen chloride, chlorine, and carbon monoxide may be released in a fire involving o-dichlorobenzene.


Again, I would not use it for a long time, especially in aluminium engine.

Then there is also this site with good info on chlorinated hydrocarbons lubrication:

http://www.qmimo.com/chlorine.htm


MMO will not harm anything in your engine or in the fuel system, just do not overdose the stuff and you will be fine.

 

[Greggy_D]

Yep....those WWII planes were just falling out of the sky because of MMO.

 

[Greggy_D]

Finally found a gallon of MMO at the "upscale" Wally World in town. lol

$12.78

Rumor has it you can ask your Wally World manager to special order it for you. Here's a pic with the UPC code.

 

[mechtech2]

Inverse oilers work best with carbureted engines.
I would not use one with fuel injection, because of the inevitable pooling and uneven distribution in the manifold.

We might as well just put the MMO in the gasoline at the recommended rate.

 

[ionbeam22]

Originally Posted By: Russell
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
never mind the ingredients, I found the MSDS info:
Quote:
chlorinated hydrocarbons, CAS# 95-50-1 0-1%, Napthenic hydrocarbons 70-80%, mineral spirits 20-30%.

Someone please explain? Is this good, bad or indifferent to our engines? I am not clear at all


Napthenic hydrocarbons == Lubricating oils, but could be anything with rings and branches that is not aromatic.

Mineral Spirits == Misc solvently volatile stuff, probably aliphatic

1% O-DCB == Chlorinated aromatic solvent, extreme pressure additive, vapor phase degreaser, wonderful stuff, mostly harmless.

Don't forget there is other stuff in there besides what is in the MSDS. For example methyl Salicate (oil of wintergreen) and IIRC maybe some tricresyl phosphate?

 

[jackson]

Originally Posted By: Greggy_D
Finally found a gallon of MMO at the "upscale" Wally World in town. lol

$12.78

Rumor has it you can ask your Wally World manager to special order it for you. Here's a pic with the UPC code.



That's good to know because I only saw the 16oz size for $2.64 at my local Walmart. It would take 8 of those bottles to make a gallon, and the cost would be $21.12!

PS- That picture of MMO looks like your Halloween treat!

 

[Turk]

Dudes!

Menards had Quart bottles for $2.54 - that's $10.08 a Gallon...!

Don't overpay!

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Inverse oilers work best with carbureted engines.
I would not use one with fuel injection, because of the inevitable pooling and uneven distribution in the manifold.

We might as well just put the MMO in the gasoline at the recommended rate.


I used it on an EFI engine from about 1990 until a month ago when the oiler finally stopped metering properly. I had no issues with it prior to that. MMO is metered in "drips per minute". The rate was about 10 DPM as a starting point, and then you adjust it to use about 1 qt MMO/1000 miles.

I remember when I ordered it from the MMO people in Port Chester NY. I had called and asked them about it and EFI and they said it would be fine. I bought 2 of them. I plan on rebuilding then and using it again. Makes it real easy not having to pour it into the gas tank.

There are some advantages to adding it to the tank, and that is for lubricating an in-tank fuel pump, the floats etc, and an external fuel pump. JMO

 

[Scdevon]

Some people believe that MMO is just ATF. BLASTPHEMY!

Usually, I reject snake oils, but MMO is one of the best all around solvents / lubricants ever invented. The US Military used to buy it in 55 gallon drums for aircraft use and lots of other uses. Definitely NOT automatic transmission fluid.

It doesn't "damage aluminum" either. Jeeze. Where did THAT come from? Many aluminum carburetors have lived for decades with MMO added to gas. Most of these carbs have never needed a rebuild because of MMO cleaning an lubricating them and stabilizing the gasoline in fuel systems.