No news. In other words, I was right. Not "PAO + Ester based" which you claimed being a "fact".
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No news. In other words, I was right. Not "PAO + Ester based" which you claimed being a "fact".
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no one know we are just speculating based of the information given. You seem to have a hard time interpreting information. It’s likely just group 3 with some pao and ester but small amount like mobil 1.
I've seen their 20l jugs and thought it was a decent deal. Keep us posted but it seems like decent run of the mill oil from what I've read about it previously.
You said "fact" before without knowing.
From Mannol 7919 Legend Extra 0W-30 SDS 2023:
So, clearly no "PAO and POE" to speak of. Its poor pourpoint of
just -40°C reveals the absence of the claimed "majority" of PAO.
So, it's no less than scam. More than certain, if not to say "fact".
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POE is not guaranteed to show up on an MSDS, but PAO definitely will.
I agree this is not a PAO synthetic though,, and wouldn't even call it synthetic with possibly 48% group 2 mineral oil
scam oil,see the other relative thread
I agree, but without PAO you don't need (expensive) POE as part of the
base oil to reach an appropriate aniline point (seal compatibility). Some
combination of group 2 and 3 will do the trick, but at a much lower cost.
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Just FYI, the "bis(2-ethylhexyl) sebacate" listed is a synthetic diester and shown at 1%.
I emailed Mannol directly and they confirmed that it is mainly HC synthetic, just like what others use Castrol, Valvoline, etc. The price is actually not so much different than Walmart price of Mobil 1 ~ $26 for 5Quarts. Europe just tax more and most popular brands sell at Autozone price without deal
Yes, most Mannol are HC or group III with a drop of PAO or Ester for marketing. They mislead us but the certification and grade are legit.
It is nice to have alternative brands that are indeed VW 504/507 certified. It works just fine just like other blenders. The additives packages are still made by big 4 anyway. The base oil, I am not sure where it is from. But it is still qualified oil..
It is nice to have alternative brands that are indeed VW 504/507 certified. It works just fine just like other blenders. The additives packages are still made by big 4 anyway. The base oil, I am not sure where it is from. But it is still qualified oil..
