Made in USA?
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Originally Posted By: RamFan
Went to replace the cam position sensor on the Charger and noticed something pleasant.
Then on the sensor itself I saw that Bosch was stamped on it and Germany was also stamped on it.
What exactly was made in the USA?
The box?
:-/
Went to replace the cam position sensor on the Charger and noticed something pleasant.
Then on the sensor itself I saw that Bosch was stamped on it and Germany was also stamped on it.
What exactly was made in the USA?
The box?
:-/
Seen this alot, the box is made in america, but alot of the parts are from there usual locations.
People saying it's labeled that way because "the box was made in the USA" are wrong. Labeling requirements say you have to label the packaging with the COO info of the product, not the COO of the box.
Here's info taken from a Customs and Border Protection (CBP) document:
http://www.cbp.gov/linkhandler/cgov/newsroom/publications/trade/iius.ctt/iius.pdf
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MARKING
35. Country-Of-Origin Marking
U.S. customs laws require that each article produced abroad and imported into the
United States be marked with the English name of the country of origin to indicate to the
ultimate purchaser in the United States what country the article was manufactured or
produced in. These laws also require that marking be located in a conspicuous place as
legibly, indelibly and permanently as the nature of the article permits.
The CBP and the Federal Trade Commission are the two organizations that regulate COO markings.
Here's a link from the FTC that explains how they regulare "Made in the USA" markings:
http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus03-complying-made-usa-standard
I'm a COO nerd, and auto parts are the product I see by far the most that are either missing COO info or that have the wrong COO info. It could have to do with auto parts coming from a variety of countries and lots of mistakes when they are boxed.
Here's info taken from a Customs and Border Protection (CBP) document:
http://www.cbp.gov/linkhandler/cgov/newsroom/publications/trade/iius.ctt/iius.pdf
Quote:
MARKING
35. Country-Of-Origin Marking
U.S. customs laws require that each article produced abroad and imported into the
United States be marked with the English name of the country of origin to indicate to the
ultimate purchaser in the United States what country the article was manufactured or
produced in. These laws also require that marking be located in a conspicuous place as
legibly, indelibly and permanently as the nature of the article permits.
The CBP and the Federal Trade Commission are the two organizations that regulate COO markings.
Here's a link from the FTC that explains how they regulare "Made in the USA" markings:
http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus03-complying-made-usa-standard
I'm a COO nerd, and auto parts are the product I see by far the most that are either missing COO info or that have the wrong COO info. It could have to do with auto parts coming from a variety of countries and lots of mistakes when they are boxed.
Maybe the LCP Mold Die was made in Deustchlund
Originally Posted By: stephen9666
People saying "the box was made in the USA" are wrong.
Then I guess this is a bunch of liars in the industry. I needed two belt pulleys for my Mark VIII, both of these are identical and take the same number. These pulleys are simply a pulley and a bearing. Carquest only had one. It said "Made in USA" on the box. I then stopped at NAPA to get the second one. It also had "Made in USA" on it. When I examined both pulleys at home, they were identical, right down to the numbering on the bearing and the numbering on the pulley. The bearings were made in China and the pulleys were made in Canada. I guess the box should have read "Made (the trip to your auto parts store) in USA".
People saying "the box was made in the USA" are wrong.
Then I guess this is a bunch of liars in the industry. I needed two belt pulleys for my Mark VIII, both of these are identical and take the same number. These pulleys are simply a pulley and a bearing. Carquest only had one. It said "Made in USA" on the box. I then stopped at NAPA to get the second one. It also had "Made in USA" on it. When I examined both pulleys at home, they were identical, right down to the numbering on the bearing and the numbering on the pulley. The bearings were made in China and the pulleys were made in Canada. I guess the box should have read "Made (the trip to your auto parts store) in USA".
Originally Posted By: stephen9666
People saying it's labeled that way because "the box was made in the USA" are wrong.
I'm a COO nerd, and auto parts are the product I see by far the most that are either missing COO info or that have the wrong COO info. It could have to do with auto parts coming from a variety of countries and lots of mistakes when they are boxed.
I know... its just the standard joke.
What PROBABLY happened is that the part was originally sourced in the US, but production switched. Boxes already printed then used to ship German parts.
Its still wrong and probably illegal, but you can see how it would easily happen.
People saying it's labeled that way because "the box was made in the USA" are wrong.
I'm a COO nerd, and auto parts are the product I see by far the most that are either missing COO info or that have the wrong COO info. It could have to do with auto parts coming from a variety of countries and lots of mistakes when they are boxed.
I know... its just the standard joke.
What PROBABLY happened is that the part was originally sourced in the US, but production switched. Boxes already printed then used to ship German parts.
Its still wrong and probably illegal, but you can see how it would easily happen.
I'm guessing they ordered 1000 sensors to be made in the US and 1,000,000 boxes and labels, then ordered another 999,000 sensors to be made in Germany.
Ooops! Innocent mistake.
Ooops! Innocent mistake.
Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
Originally Posted By: stephen9666
People saying it's labeled that way because "the box was made in the USA" are wrong.
I'm a COO nerd, and auto parts are the product I see by far the most that are either missing COO info or that have the wrong COO info. It could have to do with auto parts coming from a variety of countries and lots of mistakes when they are boxed.
I know... its just the standard joke.
What PROBABLY happened is that the part was originally sourced in the US, but production switched. Boxes already printed then used to ship German parts.
Its still wrong and probably illegal, but you can see how it would easily happen.
I'm not sure about that. The replacement and original were identical, same numbers and markings. I don't think that enough boxes would be produced in '07 (just using model year)to last through '13. Also, does Bosch own BWD?
Originally Posted By: stephen9666
People saying it's labeled that way because "the box was made in the USA" are wrong.
I'm a COO nerd, and auto parts are the product I see by far the most that are either missing COO info or that have the wrong COO info. It could have to do with auto parts coming from a variety of countries and lots of mistakes when they are boxed.
I know... its just the standard joke.
What PROBABLY happened is that the part was originally sourced in the US, but production switched. Boxes already printed then used to ship German parts.
Its still wrong and probably illegal, but you can see how it would easily happen.
I'm not sure about that. The replacement and original were identical, same numbers and markings. I don't think that enough boxes would be produced in '07 (just using model year)to last through '13. Also, does Bosch own BWD?
The oil filters I bought for relatives Vauxhall Vectra 2.2 recently were Hengst and Made in USA, was not only on the box but printed on the filter itself.
Luckily one good thing about EU over regulation is that products are all marked up.
Luckily one good thing about EU over regulation is that products are all marked up.
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As much as I like to buy American, I don't mind seeing Made in Germany really. I guess it might help the part of my family that still lives there.
Wasn't there a city USA , China ... so they could label stuff made in the USA?
Originally Posted By: Miller88
Wasn't there a city USA , China ... so they could label stuff made in the USA?
Nope, that's false.
It started years ago with a rumor that a town in Japan was renamed "Usa" so items from there could be labeled "made in USA." Now, the rumor has changed to China instead of Japan.
The main hole in the rumor is that COO labeling rules require you label the product with a COUNTRY of origin, not a city of origin.
More info available at Snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/usa.asp
Wasn't there a city USA , China ... so they could label stuff made in the USA?
Nope, that's false.
It started years ago with a rumor that a town in Japan was renamed "Usa" so items from there could be labeled "made in USA." Now, the rumor has changed to China instead of Japan.
The main hole in the rumor is that COO labeling rules require you label the product with a COUNTRY of origin, not a city of origin.
More info available at Snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/usa.asp
Most likely the part was indeed made in the US, at the local Bosch factory.
Originally Posted By: stephen9666
It started years ago with a rumor that a town in Japan was renamed "Usa" so items from there could be labeled "made in USA." Now, the rumor has changed to China instead of Japan.
Our old Civic had a Japanese-made battery - the brand name was "Yusay". I think its supposed to be pronounced like "USA".
It started years ago with a rumor that a town in Japan was renamed "Usa" so items from there could be labeled "made in USA." Now, the rumor has changed to China instead of Japan.
Our old Civic had a Japanese-made battery - the brand name was "Yusay". I think its supposed to be pronounced like "USA".
Originally Posted By: css9450
Originally Posted By: stephen9666
It started years ago with a rumor that a town in Japan was renamed "Usa" so items from there could be labeled "made in USA." Now, the rumor has changed to China instead of Japan.
Our old Civic had a Japanese-made battery - the brand name was "Yusay". I think its supposed to be pronounced like "USA".
You mean yuasa.
Originally Posted By: stephen9666
It started years ago with a rumor that a town in Japan was renamed "Usa" so items from there could be labeled "made in USA." Now, the rumor has changed to China instead of Japan.
Our old Civic had a Japanese-made battery - the brand name was "Yusay". I think its supposed to be pronounced like "USA".
You mean yuasa.
Originally Posted By: css9450
Our old Civic had a Japanese-made battery - the brand name was "Yusay". I think its supposed to be pronounced like "USA".
The Japanese battery maker is Yuasa, and it is pronounced "yu-ah-sah," and has been pronounced that way since at least 1910, 102 years ago -- although the company's origins (and name) go back to 1666, 100 years before there was a United States of America. Some history (please click) In Japan, "USA" is pronounced "Amerika" or "beikoku."
Our old Civic had a Japanese-made battery - the brand name was "Yusay". I think its supposed to be pronounced like "USA".
The Japanese battery maker is Yuasa, and it is pronounced "yu-ah-sah," and has been pronounced that way since at least 1910, 102 years ago -- although the company's origins (and name) go back to 1666, 100 years before there was a United States of America. Some history (please click) In Japan, "USA" is pronounced "Amerika" or "beikoku."
Originally Posted By: randomhero439
Most likely the part was indeed made in the US, at the local Bosch factory.
companies like Bosch source from all over; perhaps the same mold was used in the German and US factory.
at this point in life, and seeing how these things go, I'd be more concerned with having a quality part. country of origin no longer indicates quality.
Most likely the part was indeed made in the US, at the local Bosch factory.
companies like Bosch source from all over; perhaps the same mold was used in the German and US factory.
at this point in life, and seeing how these things go, I'd be more concerned with having a quality part. country of origin no longer indicates quality.
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