M1 ESP 5w30 HTHS
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Even though their website has data mistakes and other issues, is there something in the datasheet to contradicts the data?
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_ESP_Formula_5w30.aspx
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_ESP_Formula_5w30.aspx
What does the European or Australian Mobil site say?
Yes, ACEA A5 requires HTHS no greater than 3.5.
Ed
Ed
Originally Posted By: edhackett
Yes, ACEA A5 requires HTHS no greater than 3.5.
Ed
Is the ACEA A5 spec 3.50 or 3.5?
Depending on how they round, 3.58 rounds down to 3.5 just fine!
Also, they claim it 'meets the test requirements' which I'll assume means just that. I'm happy with an oil that performs regardless of whether it holds every imaginable license.
Yes, ACEA A5 requires HTHS no greater than 3.5.
Ed
Is the ACEA A5 spec 3.50 or 3.5?
Depending on how they round, 3.58 rounds down to 3.5 just fine!
Also, they claim it 'meets the test requirements' which I'll assume means just that. I'm happy with an oil that performs regardless of whether it holds every imaginable license.
That oil meets VW 504 spec, thus I believe it has to have at LEAST HTHS 3.5
Right, and the claimed ACEA C3 calls for >/= 3.5. It can't be both A5 and C3.
They are claiming to meet certifications that are mutually exclusive on that data sheet.
Ed
They are claiming to meet certifications that are mutually exclusive on that data sheet.
Ed
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Originally Posted By: edhackett
Right, and the claimed ACEA C3 calls for >/= 3.5. It can't be both A5 and C3.
They are claiming to meet certifications that are mutually exclusive on that data sheet.
Ed
"ACEA (Meets Engine Test Requirements) A5/B5"
They do not claim it meets A5/B5 totally.
Right, and the claimed ACEA C3 calls for >/= 3.5. It can't be both A5 and C3.
They are claiming to meet certifications that are mutually exclusive on that data sheet.
Ed
"ACEA (Meets Engine Test Requirements) A5/B5"
They do not claim it meets A5/B5 totally.
Originally Posted By: BobFout
Originally Posted By: edhackett
Right, and the claimed ACEA C3 calls for >/= 3.5. It can't be both A5 and C3.
They are claiming to meet certifications that are mutually exclusive on that data sheet.
Ed
"ACEA (Meets Engine Test Requirements) A5/B5"
They do not claim it meets A5/B5 totally.
It thought that in order to get MB 229.31 & 229.51 the oil has to have HTHS > 3.5?
Originally Posted By: edhackett
Right, and the claimed ACEA C3 calls for >/= 3.5. It can't be both A5 and C3.
They are claiming to meet certifications that are mutually exclusive on that data sheet.
Ed
"ACEA (Meets Engine Test Requirements) A5/B5"
They do not claim it meets A5/B5 totally.
It thought that in order to get MB 229.31 & 229.51 the oil has to have HTHS > 3.5?
Originally Posted By: unDummy
Originally Posted By: edhackett
Yes, ACEA A5 requires HTHS no greater than 3.5.
Ed
Is the ACEA A5 spec 3.50 or 3.5?
Depending on how they round, 3.58 rounds down to 3.5 just fine!
Also, they claim it 'meets the test requirements' which I'll assume means just that. I'm happy with an oil that performs regardless of whether it holds every imaginable license.
A5 is /= 2.9
A3 is >/= 3.5
In addition M1 is not lying when they say it "Meets engine test requirements" for A5 because they're the same for both A3 & A5 save for an additional test for fuel economy with regards to A5.
So what you have with M1 ESP is an oil that meets A5 engine tests but does it with an HTHS slightly over 3.5 (3.58). Kinda remarkable IMO.
There's no smoke a mirrors here from Mobil 1.
Originally Posted By: edhackett
Yes, ACEA A5 requires HTHS no greater than 3.5.
Ed
Is the ACEA A5 spec 3.50 or 3.5?
Depending on how they round, 3.58 rounds down to 3.5 just fine!
Also, they claim it 'meets the test requirements' which I'll assume means just that. I'm happy with an oil that performs regardless of whether it holds every imaginable license.
A5 is /= 2.9
A3 is >/= 3.5
In addition M1 is not lying when they say it "Meets engine test requirements" for A5 because they're the same for both A3 & A5 save for an additional test for fuel economy with regards to A5.
So what you have with M1 ESP is an oil that meets A5 engine tests but does it with an HTHS slightly over 3.5 (3.58). Kinda remarkable IMO.
There's no smoke a mirrors here from Mobil 1.
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