Luxury Car Owners Switching to Pickup Trucks

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Originally Posted by Eddie
I like to drive a vehicle that has good driving dynamics which rules out pickups, 4x4, school buses etc. Good driving dynamics make a vehicle enjoyable to drive briskly. I live in an suburban area and have no need for a overly large pickup to massage my ego.If I need the use of a vehicle to transport large stuff, I rent a truck from Lowe's for $20/hr. That way I am not burdened with the other 52 weeks a year. That comment was nasty-sorry. done with this post. Ed


This whole post touting your love of driving dynamics was an ego massage. The icing on the cake was that you projected that psychological condition onto others who don't share your priorities/view.

I also live in a suburban area, but I'm not going to rent some pile from U-Haul to drag around my 4-wheeler, which could be several times a month.
 
Originally Posted by supton
Originally Posted by tony1679
If you need a truck (for actual truck usage) even as frequently as twice a month, you're far better off renting one from Lowe's or U-Haul for $20 each time. You'll easily spend an extra $40 a month in fuel, not to mention upkeep and the initial higher cost of a truck if daily driven.

Let's see, it's about 30 miles each way to Lowe's for me. So that is what, 3 gallons of gas in just getting the truck and returning it? That's not too bad I guess.

I put snow tires onto my truck as it's absolutely horrible in snow otherwise. But then I run all seasons on my car. If the forecast says snow, I take the truck (or stay home). If the roads are bare I take the car. When the car is broken I drive the truck. Family trips are usually in our car but big trips tend to be in the truck as it simply has a larger trunk.

The thing I don't understand is the need for snow tires for a truck, unless we're talking about a 2wd truck. Otherwise even with almost street tires on a truck, if it's 4wd, I find trucks are great in the snow/winter. And I don't weight the bed with abthe thing either...just put it into 4wd and I can go through almost any weather. No need for snows, in my opinion...that's just me and people I personally know
 
Originally Posted by Railrust
Originally Posted by supton
Originally Posted by tony1679
If you need a truck (for actual truck usage) even as frequently as twice a month, you're far better off renting one from Lowe's or U-Haul for $20 each time. You'll easily spend an extra $40 a month in fuel, not to mention upkeep and the initial higher cost of a truck if daily driven.

Let's see, it's about 30 miles each way to Lowe's for me. So that is what, 3 gallons of gas in just getting the truck and returning it? That's not too bad I guess.

I put snow tires onto my truck as it's absolutely horrible in snow otherwise. But then I run all seasons on my car. If the forecast says snow, I take the truck (or stay home). If the roads are bare I take the car. When the car is broken I drive the truck. Family trips are usually in our car but big trips tend to be in the truck as it simply has a larger trunk.

The thing I don't understand is the need for snow tires for a truck, unless we're talking about a 2wd truck. Otherwise even with almost street tires on a truck, if it's 4wd, I find trucks are great in the snow/winter. And I don't weight the bed with abthe thing either...just put it into 4wd and I can go through almost any weather. No need for snows, in my opinion...that's just me and people I personally know

One winter I had the much vaulted LTX's on my truck. Plus a set of steelies with shot tires in the bed, plus a set of unmounted snow tires, plus a topper, plus whatever normally lived in the bed. I goosed it coming out of a parking lot in 2WD and that truck would have gone sideways down the road for as long as I would have let it, throttle or no throttle. I gave up after that--I've driven on bald A/S in a FWD car in snow and not thought twice, but that darn truck in RWD was an accident waiting to happen. All I would need to do is put it into 4WD and then get overconfident in road conditions. And then wrap it around a tree or something. No thanks--give me snow tires and I'll use 4WD for when the snow gets deep. Otherwise give me some wheelslip and I'll know how bad the road is.

Also found it would back into my driveway with snows whereas all seasons required 4WD. Which means something to me as 4WD is annoying on a part time system--I have to do lock to lock steering to back in, and the driveline binding is annoying--have to keep gunning it to spin a tire if I have too much traction.
 
Originally Posted by Railrust
Originally Posted by supton
Originally Posted by tony1679
If you need a truck (for actual truck usage) even as frequently as twice a month, you're far better off renting one from Lowe's or U-Haul for $20 each time. You'll easily spend an extra $40 a month in fuel, not to mention upkeep and the initial higher cost of a truck if daily driven.

Let's see, it's about 30 miles each way to Lowe's for me. So that is what, 3 gallons of gas in just getting the truck and returning it? That's not too bad I guess.

I put snow tires onto my truck as it's absolutely horrible in snow otherwise. But then I run all seasons on my car. If the forecast says snow, I take the truck (or stay home). If the roads are bare I take the car. When the car is broken I drive the truck. Family trips are usually in our car but big trips tend to be in the truck as it simply has a larger trunk.

The thing I don't understand is the need for snow tires for a truck, unless we're talking about a 2wd truck. Otherwise even with almost street tires on a truck, if it's 4wd, I find trucks are great in the snow/winter. And I don't weight the bed with abthe thing either...just put it into 4wd and I can go through almost any weather. No need for snows, in my opinion...that's just me and people I personally know


It's the stopping and turning, particularly on ice, where you notice the biggest difference.
 
Ever actually driven a truck on winter tires before? If you haven't, try a set before wondering why many of us do use winter tires - while I agree that without winter tires you are able to get around, the winter tires make a huge difference. As does using some weight, etc...

Some of us like better than "good enough", kinda like the whole point of this thread to begin with.
 
Originally Posted by spasm3
People discover that the long wheel base rides pretty good.


Precisely. Not everyone wants to drive a performance sedan with a short wheelbase and low profile tires where you feel every imperfection in the road as you round turns at a high rate of speed all the while thinking you should try your hand at being a professional race car drivers.

What used to pass for luxury is a longer wheel base, larger tires and a softer suspension which the half ton dual cab pickups seem to have more or less.
 
Originally Posted by madRiver
I believe one other reason is domestic car makers threw in the towel in passenger car vehicles long ago. Pickups are highly competitive and profitable so ton of resource to make better go that way.


I contend that the reason they are so profitable is because folks want them and are willing to pay for them, and that they are one vehicle type that in general, folks favor those made by the big 3 domestic manufacturers. Thus the manufacturers can charge a healthy premium when they sell so quickly.
 
Originally Posted by MNgopher
Ever actually driven a truck on winter tires before? If you haven't, try a set before wondering why many of us do use winter tires - while I agree that without winter tires you are able to get around, the winter tires make a huge difference. As does using some weight, etc...

Some of us like better than "good enough", kinda like the whole point of this thread to begin with.






Good point. While I have no problems getting around in snow and ice, it's the others that cannot handle the conditions that we have to avoid. That is where winters tires or AWD or a combination come in handy.
 
Originally Posted by Eddie
I like to drive a vehicle that has good driving dynamics which rules out pickups, 4x4, school buses etc. Good driving dynamics make a vehicle enjoyable to drive briskly. I live in an suburban area and have no need for a overly large pickup to massage my ego.If I need the use of a vehicle to transport large stuff, I rent a truck from Lowe's for $20/hr. That way I am not burdened with the other 52 weeks a year. That comment was nasty-sorry. done with this post. Ed


So why don't you do both - that's what I do! A truck for the working and car for the commuting, and for fun to drive...lets not even get into the motorcycle and boat I have for "fun"!!! My truck gets used at least once a week...and more in winters on days I can't get down my dirt road in my little Fiat. My money my choices...you think I am worried about my ego by owning a truck? My last few cars for "commuting" were a Toyota Paseo, a Mazda Miata, and now a Fiat 500...those are about the least ego massaging vehicles a man could drive! I don't give a rats (you know what) what people think about me for what I drive.

Oh geesh, what about my "trail toy" Xterra? That's got a lift kit, big tires, etc. on it...but I only drive it a couple dozen times a year, and certainly not all off road...sometimes just for fun!!! (Gasp!!!)

I don't care what you drive either...as long as you keep it safe and maintained and don't drive distracted or drunk...it's your money, it's your choice! Threads like this are just stupid.
 
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Originally Posted by CT8
Those evil pick ups.People shouldn't ought to have them.


Hahahahaha I have 3 F150's.

Before I get slammed for driving a pickup truck or 3, "solo". I carry things, big aircraft things, and tow things.
 
Originally Posted by SeaJay

I contend that the reason they are so profitable is because folks want them and are willing to Take out a loanat the max monthly payment they can afford for them, and that they are one vehicle type that in general, folks favor those made by the big 3 domestic manufacturers. Thus the manufacturers can charge a healthy premium when they sell so quickly.


Fixed it for you
 
Originally Posted by DriveHard


So why don't you do both - that's what I do! A truck for the working and car for the commuting, and for fun to drive.....it's your money, it's your choice! Threads like this are just stupid.


+1

Thats what i do. I use my truck for towing and weekend work, and drive the car back and forth. Hence only 80k on my 03 avalanche.
 
Originally Posted by SubLGT
https://www.gmc.com/trucks/sierra-d...amp;section=Exterior&styleOne=399807

I see that the luxury GMC Sierra Denali 1/2 ton pickup comes standard with 20" wheels (275/60R20 tires). Optional wheel size is 22" (275/50R22 tires). I assume that RAM and Ford are doing the same, or almost the same.



Yes, we have 22" wheels on our RAM sport.

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Originally Posted by Rmay635703
Originally Posted by SeaJay

I contend that the reason they are so profitable is because folks want them and are willing to Take out a loanat the max monthly payment they can afford for them, and that they are one vehicle type that in general, folks favor those made by the big 3 domestic manufacturers. Thus the manufacturers can charge a healthy premium when they sell so quickly.


Fixed it for you


Haha very true! I don't care what other people drive, it's their business. I just find it interesting when folks don't have any money for gas yet pay $1000 a month for their truck.

I'm 28, but look probably 20, and get comments mostly from middle aged people at gas stations about my BMW. I just laugh, because it's a 10 year old car that I paid cash for, and probably cost 1/5 of what their loaded SUV did. The last guy that made a joke about me was in a brand new Silverado LTZ.
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Originally Posted by PimTac
Originally Posted by MNgopher
Ever actually driven a truck on winter tires before? If you haven't, try a set before wondering why many of us do use winter tires - while I agree that without winter tires you are able to get around, the winter tires make a huge difference. As does using some weight, etc...

Some of us like better than "good enough", kinda like the whole point of this thread to begin with.






Good point. While I have no problems getting around in snow and ice, it's the others that cannot handle the conditions that we have to avoid. That is where winters tires or AWD or a combination come in handy.

I cannot tell you how many times I had to brake hard on green light in slick conditions because someone who "does not need snow tires" cannot stop on red light in time. And it was always the case of good cars not being able to stop, not some beaters.
 
Originally Posted by Skippy722
Needs and wants are 2 very separate things. Not everyone is happy living on the "modest, simple" end of the spectrum. Yeah, some people get in over their heads and will complain but they have no one to blame but themselves for that (been there done that learned my lesson). But to condemn everyone who doesn't lead the lifestyle you want or think they should is asinine.
I agree. If you want to live a large lifestyle, I'm not going to judge you, that's your choice. But it's the people who can't afford to do so and do it anyway that I have a major problem with. Or those who do then whine when they know they can't afford it.

And let's be realistic, 4/5 people 'living large' have a very 'large' amount of debt to match. Live within your means is all I'm trying to say.
 
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