Sometimes viscosity is a poor substitute for quality.I'm big into motorsports. I'm a drag racer and have friends in Pro Stock and Pro Stock Motorcycle. I've been a crew member for dirt track and drag teams as well as building engines as a hobby. Lucas's hot rod and racing oils have never worked as hoped with inconsistent batches, consumption problems, and some detonation problems. (likely from volatility) Just because a team is sponsored by Lucas doesn't mean they run their junk. There's been a lot of hurt engines from their stuff.
That PDF you posted is a good example. It states it's a 5W-30 yet the KV100 says 13.2 cSt which makes it a 40 grade, not a 30 grade. They give the API max for CCS instead of the actual number and highly unlikely they actually tested it for CCS and MRV. (as they don't have that in their lab)
Try them out. May be your new favorite oil. Won’t know till you try itThere range of automotive oils. 0w20 5w30 etc
Yep, I suppose I'd give them a break if it didn't say SAE in front of the 5W30. Close enough doesn't count with SAE. Could be a typo, I'll look at their 10W30 ( its 11.3 cSt also noted 2500ppm zdp)I'm big into motorsports. ...
That PDF you posted is a good example. It states it's a 5W-30 yet the KV100 says 13.2 cSt which makes it a 40 grade, not a 30 grade. They give the API max for CCS instead of the actual number and highly unlikely they actually tested it for CCS and MRV. (as they don't have that in their lab)
It's likely a typo - they know lighter makes more power the 10w30 in the same series is 11.3cSt as stated above.Sometimes viscosity is a poor substitute for quality.
What? How is the OP going to determine about the oil quality by trying them out?Try them out. May be your new favorite oil. Won’t know till you try it
Here is a test of a conventional 5w30 that looks fine - but not spectacular.There range of automotive oils. 0w20 5w30 etc
This is the entirety of what can be concluded from that analysis:Here is a test of a conventional 5w30 that looks fine - but not spectacular.
The results of the tests conducted on this sample meet the SAE J300 specifications for the SAE Viscosity Grade listed on the product label, and are consistent with the listed API Service Categories.
I don’t knowWhat? What is the OP going to determine about the oil quality by trying them out?
Certainly human animal senses didn't get us this far though thousands of generations.What? How is the OP going to determine about the oil quality by trying them out?
If that were true, they wouldn't be selling Group I bright stock, a bucket load of the cheapest VII on the planet topped with red dye and bar oil tackifier as an "Oil stabilizer" when the product ultimately does the complete opposite. On top of that, they sell it at a markup so obscene it would make PT Barnum blush.Yep, I suppose I'd give them a break if it didn't say SAE in front of the 5W30. Close enough doesn't count with SAE. Could be a typo, I'll look at their 10W30 ( its 11.3 cSt also noted 2500ppm zdp)
I wouldn't care about the 5W in racing app. I don't even know why they market multigrade oil here.
I am no fan of Lucas consumer products, but I can't bash their pro grade stuff as I have 0 experience with their catalogue
they state in their Product R&D tab:
We have the capability of measuring kinematic viscosity at 40 and 100°C, determining flash points of extremely flammable, flammable, and combustible materials, determining metals in new and used oils with our X-Ray Florescence ... We additionally have foam testing capabilities, cold temperature testing capabilities for multi-grade engine oils and have a state of the art table top density meter to determine pounds per gallons of finished products and incoming raw materials. Quality is the # 1 priority here at Lucas Oil Products.
Yup, that's my boat too. I would never give money to an organization that blatantly leverages deception as their key money maker, which they then use to buy exposure at racing venues to lend even more credibility to a brand whose very existence is predecated on the exploitation of ignorance.Same exact thoughts I have.
I am sure the oil is ok if overpriced it passes API spec.. but their other products are such turd snakeoil I avoid the entire brand including their grease which is probably their best product.
Their products in general are snake oil and a waste of money. You will probably get a lot of comments here. But, their products have been analyzed and basically contain nothing, so they can't really do much of anything aside from conditioning your wallet.
This is the entirety of what can be concluded from that analysis:
What type of cobra ?I bought a quart of their 2-stroke oil a while back. Now, after reading all of the flaming hatred for Lucas Oil products, I'm somewhat afraid to use it. So I might just go out and buy something better than the Cobra venom their crap might contain.
I also use their Red-N-Tacky grease, and will continue to do so. Because out here it doesn't liquify as bad in the heat as so many others do.
Can Lucas do this ?
Best commercial ever.