Lubro-Moly Anti-friction additives

[Tornado Red]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Again, how do we know that the MOLY in VSOT isn't identical to that in Lubro-Moly and how do we know that some creative and all knowing fellow member won't pour two bottles in with one finger in his nose and another in his ear??

Well, we know what's in Lubro Moly MoS2: molybdenum disulphide. in a harmless base.

What is in VSOT?

 

[Gary Allan]

Assume that it's the same soluble moly. No one else appears to have seen what I have. Then again, I don't think anyone who has used it cut open a filter after doing it to that concentration.

I'll preempt you by acknowledging your doubt that it's the same moly ..but that's just doubt.

I'll again advise using caution when considering dosing with any additive. Feel free to throw caution to the wind and follow your own informed risk whim.

 

[Mystic]

This additive reminds me of the old moly motor oil supplements that used to be sold. They had the right idea but those old products probably did not really work. But the oil companies eventually started putting moly in motor oil in a proper manner that would work. Now a lot of motor oils have moly (or something else just as good) and there is no need for these supplements.

In the past there was also a graphite supplement called Krex. It may still be around. At one Saturn dealership they encouraged people to buy that supplement. But in the owner's manual it said not to put any supplements in the motor oil.

 

[demarpaint]

Problem is no oil company wants to see anything added to their oil. Many people are either comfortable with that or they feel the oil needs some tweaking. Be it for cleaning or additional protection. IMO the oil additive business is probably a great business to be in because proving any real benefits can really be challenged, as we've seem in the past.

When people who really know their cars see, lower operating, temps, smoother idle, increased mpgs or a cleaner engine as a result of a product it gets my attention. I really do believe some of these adds do have a benefit. I also believe that oil is blended to a price point, so while we might believe we are buying the best possible oil we might not be.

 

[Mystic]

I do think that the makers of Lubro-Moly are much more reputable than some of these companies that used to make this stuff that was available in the past. People used to come up with concoctions that were basically just particles of moly in some sort of oil. They would talk about how small their particles of moly were. But the oil companies put the moly in chemical combinations that actually worked.

Everything I have heard about this Lubro-Moly is that it is a good product.

 

[HTSS_TR]

Valvoline, the maker of VSOT, is a very reputable company too.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
I do think that the makers of Lubro-Moly are much more reputable than some of these companies that used to make this stuff that was available in the past. People used to come up with concoctions that were basically just particles of moly in some sort of oil. They would talk about how small their particles of moly were. But the oil companies put the moly in chemical combinations that actually worked.

Everything I have heard about this Lubro-Moly is that it is a good product.


I suspect that as interest grows in the product here on Bitog more people will try it and more reports will come in. I've chatted via PM with a few people who have tried the product and so far the reports have been good. I'm sure there will be more to follow.

 

[chevrofreak]

My car (96 Crown Vic, 4.6 SOHC V8) is fairly prone to startup rattle when using a filter other the the Motorcraft FL-820S. I experienced occasional rattle with the Purolator PureONE that was on previously, as well as the one that is currenty on the engine. I had almost 3000 miles on this oil and filter before adding the Lubro Moly MoS2, and I can not recall hearing one single bit of rattle since it was added 900 miles ago.

 

[demarpaint]

Sounds like it is doing something for you! I would also imagine that living in MT it must be pretty darn cold, especially overnight making that first start of the day one that would be very noisy.

 

[lipadj46]

Like I said somewhere above I have used it (lubro moly) since the beginning of last summer. In that time I've had to do the head gasket and the front cover which required dropping the oil pan (required quite a few oil changes due to the repairs). I also have cut open most of my oil filters. I did not notice any MoS2 fallout but I also don't think I have OD'd on the stuff either.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: lipadj46
Like I said somewhere above I have used it (lubro moly) since the beginning of last summer. In that time I've had to do the head gasket and the front cover which required dropping the oil pan (required quite a few oil changes due to the repairs). I also have cut open most of my oil filters. I did not notice any MoS2 fallout but I also don't think I have OD'd on the stuff either.


How much did you use, and how often? I was toying with adding 1 ounce Lubro-moly/qt of oil after the Initial 300ml bottle OCI is completed.

 

[c3po]

I really like this Lubro-Moly, my engine seems quieter, I am also considering a 1 ounce Lubro-Moly/ quart of oil after the Initial bottle OCI is completed.

 

[Bigsyke]

Im trying to diagnose an issue that occured imediately after I added about 100ml of the MoS2.

Excessive valve/drive train vibrations
Horrible knocking at startup and sub-600rpms
Feeling/sounds that I have no oil in the sump.

I tested the PureOne filters ADBV and it sealed perfectly before installation. After about 800 miles on the OCI. It most likely has nothing to do with the MoS2, but im making note of it, as it happened as soon as I poured it into the crankcase.

 

[demarpaint]

Did you swap just the filter and have the noise stop?

 

[Bigsyke]

Havent touched the filter so far, the new filters ADBV was sealing when I did the oil change with PP, I added the MoS2 about 800 miles into it, then the issues started after I pulled out of Napa.

Probably had nothing to do with it, Im only noting it untill I can further inspect the oil filter, once I replace it with a new one on wednesday.

 

[sdan27]

After reading through this thread I had Napa order a dozen cans for me and added some to a few tractors on our farm. The tractors each take about 5 gallons oil so I used three cans. Looking forward to doing a UOA when it comes due and see how it affected wear and moly levels. Most recently, we've been using an engine oil that doesn't contain any moly and I've noticed wear levels, especially iron, are higher than they were when we used a different oil that did contain moly.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: sdan27
After reading through this thread I had Napa order a dozen cans for me and added some to a few tractors on our farm. The tractors each take about 5 gallons oil so I used three cans. Looking forward to doing a UOA when it comes due and see how it affected wear and moly levels. Most recently, we've been using an engine oil that doesn't contain any moly and I've noticed wear levels, especially iron, are higher than they were when we used a different oil that did contain moly.


Now there's a report I'd be interested in seeing. Also your comments on how the engines are running, or any other remarks or observations you might have.

Thanks!

 

[Woodsroad]

I've been running Lubro-Moly in my cars since I bought a used Audi ('95 90QS) back in 1999. In 2003 I bought a new WRX and have been using it, and Mobil 1, at every oil change. I have 150k+ on that car now, which I drive hard at times, and it runs as good as new. No real data other than that, just an anecdotal comment.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: Woodsroad
I've been running Lubro-Moly in my cars since I bought a used Audi ('95 90QS) back in 1999. In 2003 I bought a new WRX and have been using it, and Mobil 1, at every oil change. I have 150k+ on that car now, which I drive hard at times, and it runs as good as new. No real data other than that, just an anecdotal comment.


Welcome to Bitog, thanks for posting. Do you add the full 300 ml bottle at every OCI? I called the company, and they recommended against doing that, they suggested once a year IIRC for up to 15,000 miles/ year driving. OR every other OCI if more than 15,000 miles a year are put on the car. I was toying with the idea of 1 ounce/qt of oil after the initial treatment.

 

[Woodsroad]

I've been adding it every oil change. I drive about 20K miles a year...I can't see that I'm doing any harm, except to my wallet.
Back when I was driving 35K miles a year, I would buy it by the case!