Lubegard Platinum in Honda ?

[rkpatt]

I want to do a major flush of my Honda Odyssey transmission which could might use 15 + qts to get it really clean . I would like to do it with Dexron III then add Lubegard Platinum or black when finished . Will the "converted " fluid really be as good as the Honda brand ATF ?

 

[STSinNYC]

I don't know anything about Lubegard, but I have always been told by people who know the history that you should always use Honda ATF. Some of the past ATF problems in earlier generations of Hondas had to do with using non-Honda fluid.

 

[unDummy]

Like Honda is going to find out what fluid you used.

I'd recommend a synth over mineral dex3 with the lubegard.
But, this would be more expensive than just using the Honda ATF purchased from one of those online dealers.

 

[salsahh]

LIKE HONDA MAKES THEIR OWN OIL they can only recommend what to use not force you its against the law. Do what you want as long as you meet the minimum requirements that honda is asking.

 

[Ken2]

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Originally posted by salsahh:
LIKE HONDA MAKES THEIR OWN OIL they can only recommend what to use not force you its against the law. Do what you want as long as you meet the minimum requirements that honda is asking.

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And, the minimum requirements are to use an ATF licensed by Honda. The only one is...Honda. Use of anything else, Dexron-III plus Lubegard black, or Amsoil ATF, likely works well, but technically does not meet the minimum requirement.


Ken

 

[unDummy]

Whats specs? What minimum requirements?

Honda proprietary BS is to make more money.

Other than the HFM(any of the fluid convertors will work), it isn't anything special as a fluid.

 

[STSinNYC]

I understand the thought that Honda would have financial interest in mind re their ATF. I again recommend that you use only their ATF. A family member who is a shop manager, who is very familiar with the historical Honda AT problems, told me to use only the Honda ATF. A known issue with the past AT problems has been use of non-Honda ATF. My relative gains absolutely nothing from his reco., he's not a Honda shop.

I don't have any desire to help Honda make money on their ATF. I'm only interested in taking care of my car.

 

[John in the ATL]

Based on what I have heard about the Odyssey (wife's primary driver), a simple drain and fill of Honda ATF Z1 every 15,000 miles or one year is sufficient.

Since these vehicles have had tranny issues, (Honda has replaced many free of charge) I would stick with the Honda ATF. If your's has to be replaced under warranty, you will not have any issues for a denial from Honda NA.

 

[salsahh]

ROCK ON STS and for everyone else the key word is RECOMMEND that word is general and means only one thing a suggestion. If you do not use it does not mean your liable for anything that shall happen to the transmission as long as you use something that is equivelent. ADDITIVES are no exception
now i know i'm setting myself up to fall but like STS said all i want to do is take care of my car.

How does a oil or additive meet equivelency I guess i can't answer that seeing how honda has exclusive rights to this "special honda only club oil" its silly in my opinion but then again i don't necessarilly agree with classifications anyways cause i know there is nothing they can really do about it.

 

[Matt_S]

I agree that it's BS that Honda is the only source for their fluid, but it's been established that it's a specially friction-modified fluid, so I wouldn't use anything else in a Honda vehicle. That being said, perhaps you should start a class action, unDummy, to get them to release the specs (I'm only half-kidding here).

 

[unDummy]

When you sell a product that eveyone wants, you can get away with "special parts".

The monopoly issue doesn't compute. Just don't buy the Honda, or the Toyota, or the "insert brand here" that requires special "insert fluid here".
Class action is needed. But, it must attack all the OEMs. Every manufacturer is doing it.

Fear, and the warranty-void crowd rumors, are turning consumers into weak peasants.

It is well known that these fluids have the friction modifiers, and maybe a better additive package since higher temp performance is better than the standard cheapo ATF. But, these OEM products are overrated. And, they are definitely not synthetics(compare prices/specs), or even on the level of the synthetics when it comes to performance.

And remember, lubegard isn't the only option. Runrite/smart blend/ and others also produce HFM additives.

 

[salsahh]

Undummy I know what your saying i just I wish so many more learn this and figure it out. I've been using ProTecta and its got a good hmf in it and I haven't experienced anything bad at all. I just hear these this will void warranty and that will void warranty its silly and not right. And the beauty of it all is THEY DON'T MAKE IT and soo many people cannont understand that. Like take harley oil for example. Talk to a biker that has a harley and ask him what oil he uses if its harley oil you will have to fight him to the death before he'll consider using something else thats better.

 

[salsahh]

I agree that it's BS that Honda is the only source for their fluid, but it's been established that it's a specially friction-modified fluid, so I wouldn't use anything else in a Honda vehicle. That being said, perhaps you should start a class action, unDummy, to get them to release the specs (I'm only half-kidding here).



What do u think is the main ingredient to transmission additives? Friction modifiers. Oxidation stabilizers.
What does this fluid have that no others don't?
How are these corporations getting away with this?
Isn't there MONOPOLY laws?
Trust me there are far more things you can do better for your car then buying just honda oil.
Additives are what put this oil in its own category.
I love the FEAR these people instill into their product.