LSJr. The TRUTH About Valvoline's BOLD Engine Cleaning Claims

[buster]

1 OCI from a GDI turbo with extended drains

Some more anecdotal evidence:

When asked if it was varnished up he said:

“yes some from heavy use of Mobil 1 EP and pushing it long intervals (11,000 mile intervals).

 

[cheesepuffs2]

1 OCI from a GDI turbo with extended drains

Some more anecdotal evidence:

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When asked if it was varnished up he said:

“yes some from heavy use of Mobil 1 EP and pushing it long intervals (11,000 mile intervals).

I have a hard time believing M1 EP causes varnish in 11,000 mile intervals unless it's an engine with a known defect (like VCM) that is especially hard on oil.

 

[buster]

I have a hard time believing M1 EP causes varnish in 11,000 mile intervals unless it's an engine with a known defect (like VCM) that is especially hard on oil.

I do too, but this engine (apparently) is pretty hard on oil and his wife drives it daily. I was also skeptical of HPL showing carbon in filter after long term use of Mobil 1 per Overkill. But I believe both.

 

[userfriendly]

I came for the oil and stayed for the entertainment

That’s because of the ten ninety rule.
The same ten guys post ninety percent of the content.

 

[Furious]

Lot of skeptics will continue to be butthurt by the fact Valvoline did create an oil that can clean very well when used as directed. Get your Klenex ready.

They were attacking it since it released, especially the HPL fanboys, it isn't going to stop now.

 

[Shannonwilkerson]

Hey! My car has 38,000 miles on it! Lol. Ive always changed my own oil. Walmart is cheaper.

Pay Subaru dealer $120 to change oil and tires? Or pay $50 for materials to diy the job?

I’m just an average middle class guy. All of my other high mileage pushrod v8 engines and diesel engines get the rotella t4 treatment from walley world ($16 per jug there or $40 per jug at autozone)

 

[Triple_Se7en]

I do too, but this engine (apparently) is pretty hard on oil and his wife drives it daily. I was also skeptical of HPL showing carbon in filter after long term use of Mobil 1 per Overkill. But I believe both.

Is that 1.5 of yours known to run hotter than the norm? That wrecks havoc on oils and creates varnish environments

 

[TiGeo]

Lest we forget who he is funded by:

This site is also sponsored by Penzoil - I'm looking at a Penzoil banner on my phone as I type this. So?

They were attacking it since it released, especially the HPL fanboys, it isn't going to stop now.

Cleaning isn't the only reason to use HPL (even though it seems to be a crowd favorite reason here). I am not attacking the Valvoline product, I'll likely start using it in my son's older Focus as it seems like a high-value product, but I wouldn't compare it directly to HPL based on the data I've collected using the HPL products which are excellent for those either wanting a long OCI oil or for me, 12 hours at 270 deg F on track...no way I'd use the Valvoline product for that use vs. HPL.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

This site is also sponsored by Penzoil - I'm looking at a Penzoil banner on my phone as I type this. So?

This is quite obtuse. It isn't like staff members like Molakule here are shilling for Pennzoil. With YouTube content creation, the goal for both the sponsor and the host of the show is to mutually benefit from positive PR spin for the product in question. The staff members here aren't getting paid to be brand ambassadors for anybody here but LSJ is.

 

[TiGeo]

This is quite obtuse. It isn't like staff members like Molakule here are shilling for Pennzoil. With YouTube content creation, the goal for both the sponsor and the host of the show is to mutually benefit from positive PR spin for the product in question. The staff members here aren't getting paid to be brand ambassadors for anybody here but LSJ is.

So LSJR is a shill/shills for Penzoil b/c they are a sponsor of his channel? I haven't gotten that vibe. Do you know the ins/outs of LSJR's sponsorship deals b/c I certainly don't? If anything he is promoting HPL in many of his videos.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

So LSJR is a shill/shills for Penzoil b/c they are a sponsor of his channel? I haven't gotten that vibe. Do you know the ins/outs of LSJR's sponsorship deals b/c I certainly don't? If anything he is promoting HPL in many of his videos.

He's promoting anybody who gives him access or kickbacks is the point. They give him sponsorship or access to their facilities for content, and in return they get exposure on his growing channel. One hand washes the other. His channel is not a charity.

 

[TiGeo]

He's promoting anybody who gives him access or kickbacks is the point. They give him sponsorship or access to their facilities for content, and in return they get exposure on his growing channel. One hand washes the other. His channel is not a charity.

I understand how sponsorship works. Your assumption that his videos are shilling his sponsors products is not founded.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

I understand how sponsorship works. Your assumption that his videos are shilling his sponsors products is not founded.

You're naive to think that his channel isn't monetized and that there isn't mutual agreement of benefit for both parties involved there.

 

[ZZman]

Perfect application for this stuff would be one of the old Toyota's or Saturn cars with the rings that caked up. Oh, or a Honda VCM 3.5L V6 in an Odyssey.

Or the Kia/Hyundai GDI motors

 

[SimpleSyrup]

Looks like LS Jr. has proven that 10K OCIs on TGMO 0W20 is WAY TOO LONG! I wouldn't even go that long on company vehicles that aren't mine-7500 is the limit.

This is addressed in the comments. The 10k OCI was based on his UOAs. You know...like how people on this forum used to do it.

 

[OVERKILL]

The varnish would indicate that the oil is not in fact capable of 10,000 mile intervals.

 

[jetman]

They were attacking it since it released, especially the HPL fanboys, it isn't going to stop now.

I'm a fan boy of both HPL and VRP right now. Time will tell which will win.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

The varnish would indicate that the oil is not in fact capable of 10,000 mile intervals.

Right? Plus using the dipstick eye test to declare that Valvoline has done an excellent job with R&P?

But yeah, "science" and being impartial alright... His whole MO seems to be using "science" as a front to gain the attention and confidence of an audience, and then feeding them clickbait to game the channel.

 

[OilStainedNapkin]

The varnish would indicate that the oil is not in fact capable of 10,000 mile intervals.

Varnish in an ICE that’s a daily driven mom wagon….meh, I wouldn’t bat an eye

 

[Glenda W.]

The varnish would indicate that the oil is not in fact capable of 10,000 mile intervals.

Exactly what I was thinking.