And which one of the oils tested on this video fits into mom-and-pip gas station oil category?“Ranking” based on quality oils WITH a high HTHS. No one is shilling 20w50 from the mom-and-pop gas station in the middle of nowhere.
Common sense is like deodorant. The people who need it most never use it.
LSJR Boutique vs OTS shootout
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To be fair, the engine they are testing is quite vanilla. I am quite sure if they used a turbo boxer instead with a leaning set up to emulate g forces, things would be different.
But i think this is a great video probing there is more to an oil than just HTHS. It bothers me to see the oil recommendations in a way that "everyone should up their grade and choose the thickest oil of that grade"
But i think this is a great video probing there is more to an oil than just HTHS. It bothers me to see the oil recommendations in a way that "everyone should up their grade and choose the thickest oil of that grade"
I didn’t insinuate that any of them were. But the average HTHS between all 8 oils is 3.2575 or 3.26 rounded. Only two oils had an HTHS of 3.5 or greater. So it can be deduced that you were referring to the Redline with an HTHS of 3.7. Which is a niche market product that I’m comfortable claiming the majority here probably don’t routinely use (or push). Most of the oils recommended here, based on HTHS, are euro oils that hold a plethora of quality approvals.
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Nope. Although the TEOST is arguably the most valuable info there for most people now.
Any particular reason you feel the need to turn this into another thick vs thin thread besides stirring the pot?
I would argue Teost is the least valuable, given its sensitivity to Mo, and PDSC (oxidation) being the most valuable. There's a strong correlation between oxidation resistance and turbo coking as oxidation is the first step in coking. Thus, I consider PDSC results to be a better representation of an oil's resistance to not only turbo coking but also varnish, deposits, and sludge in general.
Must have bought too much popcorn when seeing another LSJr thread. Since the controversy never materialized as they often have in the past, time to stir the pot so their popcorn doesn't go stale.
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I would hope that they want oil at the same price point compared - and maybe those that are readily available …
This was about as scattered as Project Farm Bandit - $14-$58
I suspect the average driver these days gives engine oil precisely zero thought until their car yells at them. Then they take their car to a quick lube place or the dealer and pay them to make the car not yell at them anymore.
That's it. On with life.
This was one of Lakes best IMO. He even mentioned wear was essentially equal.
Yeah. Especially for the folks that are always late leaving for work in the morning.
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It’s no surprise, but I think it’s interesting how this test served to confirm people’s pre-existing biases to some extent. If you were a LiquiMoly user before, then you can sink your teeth into its results with the exception of shear and feel good about what you’re using. If you like Ultra Platinum, this showed you there’s probably no reason to change what you’re doing.
I’ve settled into Mobil 1, and while I don’t use Truck & SUV, these results tell me that, as I already felt, XOM offers a totally quality/reliable choice for a very fair price. The conclusion? You really can’t go wrong.
I’ve settled into Mobil 1, and while I don’t use Truck & SUV, these results tell me that, as I already felt, XOM offers a totally quality/reliable choice for a very fair price. The conclusion? You really can’t go wrong.
Most people have bigger fish to fry
Oil is oil
This. Plus you can clearly see which oils were formulated to be good in almost every category vs specializing in a few.
Hahaha indeed.
It's about balance and need to believe just because an oil has lots of moly doesn't mean it won't leave deposits, especially ring lands.
Not a hater, but stopped watching his last video when he said an oil filter gets more efficient the longer you keep it on. Not sure how that can be defended, but if the kool-aid is in your favorite flavor, drink up.Where are all the Lake haters now? 3...2...1 "Yeah but......."
Where are the lighting experts that are going to claim the light wasn't at the right angle for these tests?
What about the API licensed oils doing better than boutique in the TEOST? "Yeah but....."
I understand the cost, and for me/others that are doing it, free from FCP which is about the only way using LM products makes sense b/c as you say, it's not cheap for a somewhat average product. So firstly, I'm not up on all this testing - it seems to me the two things that stood out were the shear test which it did poorly/matches my results when I used it (red circled data points in my table below). I also note the fan-fave Mobil 1 0W40 also returned a v. low ending viscosity but admittedly it's one data point and a dataset doesn't a data point make
but that oil is recommended ad-nauseum here. The other was this other TEOST test where it did the best which for turbos would be a good one to do well in (at least as I understand the test). Seems like the tungsten-based friction modifier did well to allow more power and less heat (that one is interesting to me). Still see it as doing well in this but most here seem to value the shear values the most. Yes, in a turbo shear strenght is clearly important but is it really the end-all for daily use vehicles when folks generally only go to 5K miles for a change and you can do the free thing? If I used it again I'd change after every track event b/c free but the HPL has proved out as being the way to go there for me at least for the forseeable future - would be interesting to test it again and see if the heat/power thing is even real/"feelable". Yes, I know, predator blood 
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