LSJR blends up a custom oil in the lab

[Kira]

I was away for a while

What did you do?

 

[ATex7239]

Just in. New BITOG requirement...credentials posted with any advice or info posted. I'll start.

• B.S. and M.S. in geology
• Professional Geologist (P.G.) in 3 states
• Multiple publications in scientific journals
• Registered Member of SME allowing me to act as Competent Person (CP) for sign-off on public reports of Mineral Resources

Value to BITOG? Talking about Volkswagens and memes

Don’t forget BITOG Bingo Card aficionado extraordinaire and Senior Advisor to the Get Off My Lawn Association.

 

[kschachn]

He also formulated, tested, and analyzed oils for JGR/Driven in NASCAR for 15 years as their GM. I was in close communication with him through the development of one of Driven's products. In live engine tests, he went through 150+ camshafts in multiple engines dialing in the formula for that oil. That included mic'ing every lobe of every camshaft before and after, profilometer mapping of lobe surfaces (and cylinder walls and rings), validating results from lab tests to live engine, and so on. He also spent time with GM at ORNL working on development of ionic liquid FM in low viscosity engine oils. The man is a wealth of knowledge and experience. Don't discredit him by his degree.

https://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/Files/Pub138912.pdf

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Well I certainly respect your opinion. In this case however where someone is formulating motor oils I’ll stand by my opinion that they need more than a marketing degree. Either that or you’re doing it with the assistance of multiple other individuals and they should be credited as in the paper you show above.

Perhaps he’s mostly a cheerleader for the other individuals and his function is to pull together their work and ideas. Being listed last on a paper would indicate that to me.

 

[kschachn]

Degrees can be overrated. Many people are employed in areas that have nothing to do with their degree. A degree proves you can learn. LSJ has a lot of experience as RDY pointed out that you can't get in a classroom.

I've met PhDs that can barely function in life and are only good at one thing.

I used to think that and it may be true in some instances. But I learned that there is no real substitute for technical knowledge in a highly technical situation such as this. It’s popular to play down the importance of education but in the research laboratories where I’ve worked it’s a key component.

 

[kschachn]

You just made an argument to not take your own statements seriously

I’ve always attempted to never overstate or step outside my knowledge on a subject. And in those instances when I’ve done that and said something incorrect I’ve acknowledged doing so on here.

Unlike some others I don’t abandon threads when I’ve been shown to be wrong, you know?

 

[Jetronic]

Just in. New BITOG requirement...credentials posted with any advice or info posted. I'll start.

• B.S. and M.S. in geology
• Professional Geologist (P.G.) in 3 states
• Multiple publications in scientific journals
• Registered Member of SME allowing me to act as Competent Person (CP) for sign-off on public reports of Mineral Resources

Value to BITOG? Talking about Volkswagens and memes

I think you are qualified to comment on OE filters for asian vehicles... you know, ROCK CATCHERS.

 

[Jetronic]

Unlike some others I don’t abandon threads when I’ve been shown to be wrong, you know?

But why keep repeating what doesn't click anyway. At some point the discussion is over, no matter who was right.

 

[thastinger]

Project Farm should test this oil.

 

[kschachn]

But why keep repeating what doesn't click anyway. At some point the discussion is over, no matter who was right.

True, but it does go to trust which is what I was specifically responding to in that post.

 

[buster]

Project Farm should test this oil.

Project Farmer + FordBossMe vs SWRI. BATTLE FOR THE AGES!

 

[RDY4WAR]

All the knowledge in the world is useless if you can't put it into practice or pass it to someone who can. I pay more attention to those who can put it into practice. I don't care how much you know about a job. Can you do the job?

 

[kschachn]

All the knowledge in the world is useless if you can't put it into practice or pass it to someone who can. I pay more attention to those who can put it into practice. I don't care how much you know about a job. Can you do the job?

I’m not sure I understand what you mean here.

 

[Pablo]

I’m not sure I understand what you mean here.

Fake it until you make it.

FTR: This is NOT a slight on Lake. It's just an old boomer saying.

 

[Hohn]

He uses his degree to his advantage. Why wouldn't he? That said, a lot of people go into fields that's outside the scope of their degree. I care more about experience than education. He's been in tribology and oil formulating for 20 years.

My best friend (RIP) was a welding engineer at a nuclear power plant. His degree? Molecular biology.

My undergrad degree is nothing related to mechanical engineering, but I’ve been employed in that field since leaving the military nearly 20 years ago.

 

[Glenda W.]

Nothing to do with Lake but I was curious about Intro Tribology courses by STLE. The prerequisites are listed.

The course requires background in engineering or physical sciences, including basic courses in mathematics, applied mechanics, materials science, physics, and chemistry. At least a bachelor's degree in physical sciences (chemistry and physics) or in engineering (mechanical, materials, electrical, chemical) is required.

 

[Wireman1987]

I like the stuff poured after a fresh bottle neck seal crackle.

 

[kschachn]

Nothing to do with Lake but I was curious about Intro Tribology courses by STLE. The prerequisites are listed.

The course requires background in engineering or physical sciences, including basic courses in mathematics, applied mechanics, materials science, physics, and chemistry. At least a bachelor's degree in physical sciences (chemistry and physics) or in engineering (mechanical, materials, electrical, chemical) is required.

Perhaps we are wrong that his degree is in marketing? Where is this listed somewhere?

 

[Hootbro]

Nothing to do with Lake but I was curious about Intro Tribology courses by STLE. The prerequisites are listed.

The course requires background in engineering or physical sciences, including basic courses in mathematics, applied mechanics, materials science, physics, and chemistry. At least a bachelor's degree in physical sciences (chemistry and physics) or in engineering (mechanical, materials, electrical, chemical) is required.

His OMA certificate does not require all that.

https://www.stle.org/files/Certifications/OMAInformation.aspx

Requirements​

• 16 hours of training in oil analysis-related courses, which may include company training programs.
• One year of experience utilizing oil analysis in the field of lubrication.

Becoming OMA I Certified​

OMA I certification is obtained by scoring 70 percent or higher on the designated exam that standardizes the body of knowledge for an Oil Monitoring Analyst. Certification is valid for three years, after which individuals are required to recertify to maintain their OMA I status.

 

[Glenda W.]

Perhaps we are wrong that his degree is in marketing? Where is this listed somewhere?

Linkedin

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lake-speed-jr-1b2768121

 

[Glenda W.]

His OMA certificate does not require all that.

https://www.stle.org/files/Certifications/OMAInformation.aspx

I see that. $650 for non member to take the course.

The Lubrication Specialist doesn’t either. But three years in the field.

https://www.stle.org/files/Certifications/CLS_Information.aspx