Lots of new Ram trucks rotting on dealer lots it seems

I checked and one of the CJDR dealers in my area has 516 Ram 1500s on the lot. Wow.
Getting back onto topic, agree. Someone else posted that there was older trucks still for sale. I was mildly shocked to see several 2022 - 2500's with less then 100 miles on cars.com

Almost makes you think market manipulation is going on, which it blatantly is.
 
I don't think it's envy at all.

I do think it gets annoying to have advertisements constantly blitzkrieging you with 'cheap' leases that are anything but.

Recent example. There's a forum that I frequent where one guy was bragging that he got a killer deal on a Kia EV9 that was 0 down and $505 a month for 36 months (30,000 miles) of driving.

This annoyed me because the certain cost were left out and it wasn't a good deal at all. The acquisition and disposition fees. The sales tax and registration costs. The higher insurance rates.

In reality, that EV that he'll probably drive for less than 30,000 miles will cost about $25,000. This guy is pretending that this is a great deal, which can impact a lot of folks who buy with their eyes and are bad at math.

Manufacturers play this game with consumers. And some folks just don't dig beneath the surface. It's a sad reality of modern life.
 
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There are however-many thousands of members here so that means there are however-many thousands of financial positions also. Maybe for CKN is is easy to trade in a nearly-new Ford truck for a Chevy truck just because he didn't like the first one but that doesn't mean everyone can do so as well. My parents are probably exactly his age and they aren't the least bit car-savvy so whatever complaints CKN had about the first truck they never would have noticed ("I suppose they all drive this way") but the notion of trading in something so new would be total anathema to them. Even if they could afford it; even if the numbers worked in their favor. It just wasn't in their upbringing. Maybe some of that Depression-era logic still lingers with them, or some sort of Catholic guilt that won't let them part with functioning durable goods for any reason, or whatever. But to the know it all wealthy snobs of the world theirs is just another position to mock.

My mother is a boomer, her father ate tulip bulbs in WW2 (he lived in occupied Europe). Both my grandparents and parents have a completely different financial mindset. I'd watch my grandfather spend 10 minutes with a knife scraping every bit of peanut butter residue from the edges of an "empty" peanut butter jar, absolutely nothing went to waste.

I felt pretty guilty buying my truck new. With my wage I could afford it but I didn't really need it either, I could have bought 4 years old and saved $15,000 to $20,000. I justified it by knowing I'd keep it until the wheels fell off.

A lot of us live completely differently from those who suffered and its whole different mindset and outlook on life.
 
My mother is a boomer, her father ate tulip bulbs in WW2 (he lived in occupied Europe). Both my grandparents and parents have a completely different financial mindset. I'd watch my grandfather spend 10 minutes with a knife scraping every bit of peanut butter residue from the edges of an "empty" peanut butter jar, absolutely nothing went to waste.

I felt pretty guilty buying my truck new. With my wage I could afford it but I didn't really need it either, I could have bought 4 years old and saved $15,000 to $20,000. I justified it by knowing I'd keep it until the wheels fell off.

A lot of us live completely differently from those who suffered and its whole different mindset and outlook on life.
My kids don't understand why I buy stuff I will use in bulk when it's on sale. Today's inflationary cycle will teach them maybe.
 
I don't think it's envy at all.
I don't think it's envy, but there's definitely a group that's like "if you don't pay cash for everything like I did after the war, you can't afford it! I bought my house outright in cash for $500 and my first car for a case of beer, which was worth 25 whole cents back then, that was a lot of money! But I saved it up, shaving mole balls for the local furrier."
 
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One of the reasons I started this thread is because I noticed Ram dealers having tons of trucks not selling. A dealer I drove by, Performance Dodge, Jeep Ram seen on I-270 on the west side of Columbus, OH, list having 158 Ram trucks in inventory and more if you count 2025's in transit. They are swamped with new vehicles and many are parked on the grass near the freeway.

Part of the problem there is the dealer group.
They put their vehicles on a "Pedestal."
They just don't want to sharpen their #2's and do the deal required to find them a good home.
Prudent dealerships that overstocked would do some skinny deals to thin the herd.
I have attempted to deal with them in one of their other dealerships.
Highest price always. This last time, across four states.
The good news for them is that the Shopping Center on the other side of Georgesville is not setting the world on fire. They might be able to park some over there. Or maybe Germain (in the same Automall) might lend them some space, since they move cars.
 
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I think @CKN has a point, which is why I never discuss financial matters on this forum. The amount of condescension and brow-beating some folks have received over what seemed like pretty innocent questions, or dear Christ, if they financed ANYTHING, even if it was at 0%, the grief they got from the "I'm driving a 30 year old Corolla and live in a house I paid cash for in 1952 working at the mine while setting up lynching trees as a side gig to sock away that extra money" crowd was next level.

Nobody wants to be subject to that, but it's a strong vein that runs through the membership, which I assume is the boomer crowd.

Never put anything on social media that you don't want someone to twist to satisfy their narrative, so that they can throw it in your face.
 
Never put anything on social media that you don't want someone to twist to satisfy their narrative, so that they can throw it in your face.
Yep. It has been some young guys that have asked some pretty innocent questions about financing something, or a mortgage, or a credit card to build credit, and the "uphill both ways" crowd comes down on them like a Bikini Atoll nuke test.
 
Yep. It has been some young guys that have asked some pretty innocent questions about financing something, or a mortgage, or a credit card to build credit, and the "uphill both ways" crowd comes down on them like a Bikini Atoll nuke test.

Not always just young guys.
I'm far from that, yet I remember once asking a question about my truck, and the thread turned into a critique about why I didn't need a truck.
 
Not always just young guys.
I'm far from that, yet I remember once asking a question about my truck, and the thread turned into a critique about why I didn't need a truck.
Were they telling you to buy a Crown Victoria instead? I swear, that was the mindset of the forum for about a decade after I first joined, and it has only recently faded away due to the discontinuance of the Panther platform some years ago...
 
Were they telling you to buy a Crown Victoria instead? I swear, that was the mindset of the forum for about a decade after I first joined, and it has only recently faded away due to the discontinuance of the Panther platform some years ago...

No, they thought I needed a trailer instead.
 
Not always just young guys.
I'm far from that, yet I remember once asking a question about my truck, and the thread turned into a critique about why I didn't need a truck.
That’s why I stick to technical questions, like common issues, areas to watch out for etc. for something I’m considering which usually gets me some good feedback.

I never ask what to buy or what to do on here, it’s an exercise in futility.
 
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