Losing things

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MarkC, you got a big heart dude, thats good and a gift from G-- oh you know who.


Life makes some people hard and you have been blessed with kindness and a loving heart. Continue to use it for good and to help others.

That lonely void you feel is normal and wants to be filled by something deeper than people, pets, or things.

I tried putting all sorts of things into that void and have only found one person that fits.

Sincerely, Terry
 
MarkC, I don't know if the way you feel is a function of growing up or growing older.

I do know that there comes a time in life where you start to realize that the people you care about are disappearing slowly. First your parents and their friends, then your brothers, sisters and your friends.

When someone I have had any reasonable personal contact with dies, I make it a point to attend the service if possible. Two weeks ago i attended a service for an elderly man I would see about 5 times a week. I had never been to his home or socialized with him. I met his daughter at the service and told him that her father was a gentlemen. She appreciated the words.

I do this because decent people pass through this life without much fanfare and their deaths are considered inconsequential by most. I'd like to think that acknowledging someone walked on this earth and lived a decent life is something worthy of my time.

Someday I hope someone can say the same about me.
 
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I do know that there comes a time in life where you start to realize that the people you care about are disappearing slowly. First your parents and their friends, then your brothers, sisters and your friends.

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The older you get the more you are exposed to personal loses and the more you begin to dwell on it.


I wish I was a LOT older. At 29, my sister was diagnosed w/ breast cancer. 4 years later, she was gone.

Does that make me appreciate everything I have left even more than I did before? Yes. Does this appreciation help me cope w/ the fact that she's gone? No, and that's the hard part.

Dave
 
My wife has the best way of putting it. Don't worry or be concerned over things you can't control.
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Losing things??

You mean like, my mind?

Sorry I couldn't resist....

MarkC - I know what you mean....been there all day...but seem to be coming out of it, just to play with the kids, see the sun set (nice sunny today, here!).

Man - if you didn't feel like that, you wouldn't be human.
 
MarkC

Fill this void with Love.
Love of friends, family, wife and children. If you can do this then you'll expeience Loves' trancendent quality, it's feeling like no other.

Good Luck to you,

S
 
I've been thinking lately(amazing, I realize) about a lot of things that are all connected by a thread; loss.
My parents are not so young anymore- about 68 and 67-, and I know that they'll be gone one day, hopefully years from now.
I look at my beautiful wife and get so overwhelmed with love for her that I can't breathe. But what if I lost her to sickness or an argument, or whatever?
I think about all my beloved dogs and how they're no longer with me.
This is pretty stupid, I always seem to have the problem of not being able to cherish and enjoy the things I have at the moment, because of the nagging realization that they will be gone one day.
I know we should live in each moment and appreciate what we have now, but often I'm unable to forget that little fear of losing things- people, pets, everything.
I'm not a person who gets too attached to 'things' ( except sentimental things), but I do get attached to people and pets.
Sometimes it seems like a lonely world, even when I'm surrounded by people and animals that I love.
Anybody else ever have this, or am I just being melancholy?
 
Mark, you are not alone! When I am playing with my 2 year old son Alex I often get worried about what if something bad happened to him. I'm sure it's something which will consume me for the rest of my life, and it's probably quite normal for most parents.

So when you love someone so much, you can't help but worry about them. Just don't let it overcome you to the point where you can't enjoy life.
 
The older you get the more you are exposed to personal loses and the more you begin to dwell on it. My father was buried on my birthday in 2001. My dog was put down on my birthday in 2003. My mother has alzheimer's and probably not a long time left. In fact it's pretty much like I lost her anyway. I dread when my birthday rolls around. I just wait for the next tragedy. Basically I think you can sum up our existence on this planet as ...you're born, life sucks, you pay enormous taxes then you die.... But hey I'm cheery
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[ February 13, 2004, 12:42 PM: Message edited by: Whimsey ]
 
Mark: I would propose that you have the sad feelings you do because you realize how much these beings mean to you, how devastated you would be if anything happened, and that you are subconsciously preparing your self against the possibility of loss.

I am not a psychologist, but I have the same feelings as you and attribute them to that reason. For example, I found myself preparing mentally for my father's death some five to eight years before I thought it would actually happen, even though, as far as I knew, he was in good health. It was a very good thing, as a year and a half later he was diagnosed with the worst form of leukemia, and five weeks after that he was buried. If I had not envisioned having to cope with his death, dealing with it would have been much more difficult than it already was.

As it is now, I look around and recognize my emotional anchors, the people whose existance keeps me on an even keel psychologically (even though I am middle aged). One is my Mother, the other is my wife. I try to envision how I would react if either one were lost. If I lost one or the other I can envision getting back on my feet with the support of the remaining one, but if I were to lose both, especially if it were in similar time frames, I can't imagine coping. I don't even want to think about this scenario, but it would be even worse to have it strike and be completely unprepared emotionally.

Unfortunately, people can and do suffer such losses, and somehow they manage to go on. I believe it is feelings like you are experiencing that help make it possible.

P.S. The other side of this is realizing that your own demise could have the same effect on others. This forces you to conduct your life in a different way, do better planning, saving, organizing etc.

[ February 14, 2004, 01:16 AM: Message edited by: TooManyWheels ]
 
Mark,

I have had three heros in my life. My father, my grandfather, and my great uncle.

My Dad because he spent a terrible year in Vietnam (Sept 67 - Oct 68). When he can home he didn't have a dime. His brothers wrecked his car, wore his clothes and spent his money. He could have been bitter, but wasn't. He live within 3 miles of all three of this brothers to this day and loves them all dearly. He married my mother two weeks after "going back to the world" (coming home from Nam). They are still married and have kept their vowes for 35 years. Not always easy, but always.... He now has more $ than he knows what to do with and never flaunts it. He earned his money by simply working his rear off and never ever cheated anyone for a dime. He his respected by the entire community and I'm very proud to say he's my dad!

My grandfather because many people in my home town have told me that he is the most honest person they have ever know. He also worked very hard his entire life and now lives very comfortably in retirement.

My great uncle becase of his selfless devotion to treating his "beloved" alcoholics. He spent most of his career as a human resources director for a couple local companies and a national railroad. During his almost 50 working years, he counciled literally thousands for alcohol and substance abuse. He educated himself on alcoholism and wrote several books on the subject. Enjoyed many great rejoices and suffered several crushing defeats in his years of treating his alcoholics, but never ever gave up on helping as many as he could. To this day, people who I never suspected are alcoholics, say something to me like "he saved my life". What an increadible legacy.

I am in jepardy of losing all of them. My dad had a stroke Dec 22. He seems to have no lasting effects now, but I wonder every day if/when he'll have another one that he won't recover from? My great uncle had a stroke a couple years ago and is living in a nursing home. My grandfather is 86 and it's just a matter of time....

I try not to dwell on the fact that I could lose any of them at any time. Instead I rejoice in having known and been loved by all of them.

My main goal in life right now is to pass this wonderful heritage to my kids.

Regards,

Wayne
 
Sort of prescient I guess. Last night my Mom called to tell me that her great-uncle(who is actually a couple of years younger than her; my great-grandma had lots of kids)passed away.

They grew up almost as bother and sister after her mother died.
I hadn't seen him in awhile, but I'm going to miss him.

Oh yeah, the wife is pissed about something too, so I'd better figure that out and fix it.
Thanks for all your thoughts about my post.
 
Wow Mark, hang in there guy. As the sayings go, seasons turn, and spring can be the cruelest season....but since we are still technically in winter, we will be just fine. Time heals, not just covers, if you learn.

Wife pissed? Yeah you better find out why. Nothing to do with Valentine's day?
 
Evidently, she didn't think I handled the news of my uncle's death very well. I had some tears, and didn't say much to my Mom. I was supposed to be strong and comfort my Mom, etc. That's what started the argument, but then it proceeded into a downward spiral, and when I left for work today, she was still mad.
Still haven't quite got it all figured out about what she expects from me in all areas, she won't tell me, I'm supposed to read her mind.
Sometimes Japanese are quite frustrating.
 
Ah....you and I both know the quiet, docile Japanese wife is just a myth, a piece of stereotypical folklore swallowed by many around the Earth. Even Chinese guys think this is so when I tell them about my family, etc. Sure, to outsiders this may be true.

Interesting that I have been married almost 20 years and my wife was born in Hawaii, yet if my emotions are not up to her expectations...she will let me know....this is so strange, yet I have somehow gotten/not gotten used to it. I have changed because of it. I think this may be what you are going through. I used to be much harder...to some extent I still am to outsiders. It has really helped me when dealing with the Chinese.....even the companies I am harsh with will eventually thank me. Some will be quite interested in the way I work....

What I have learned from my wife has, in the long run, made me a more rounded person. Most westerners cannot understand this, and to just call it "two faces" don't even come close.

[ February 14, 2004, 12:05 PM: Message edited by: Pablo ]
 
Oh yes, there's nothing docile about Yoko. At least in private. To outsiders, she's always polite, kind, etc. but family better watch it!
I do believe that what she says makes sense, it's just hard to implement.
And aside from the cultural thing, she gets hit with the most drastic PMS I have ever heard of, and then she can turn on a dime over something that seems small.
She says I have to treat that as an illness and take whatever she dishes out, understanding that how I act while she's in the grips of it will be remembered later.
How's that for fun?
 
Wow. It's like they are related or something...my wife uses the "western excuses" for that time...it's like basically the hormones are in control and nothing else is in play, get out of the way. On second thought maybe that's just a female thing in general....
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