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I don't like the cloth either... dash cloth....
May not be on the Premium
 
You can't beat a dealer loaner car for a test drive....I had several days to drive it on the
roads I'm on daily...

Unlike the Jeepster I'm seeing good deals.
 
Subaru is better than Toyota says
Mr. Subaru.....
If its about the oil change ease I'd agree...
 
Motormouth Subaru Outback review. 2026 model.
This is the turbo however
I do not understand the market position for this redesign. They should have just killed the Outback with the demise of the Legacy.
You have the popular and accommodating Forester "Giant Box of Air" and then the step up to the Ascent if you need more MORE.

The deal with the Outback? It was a capacious, good steering, roof load-able, smooth highway glider - a 'jacked' wagon that could be had out-the-door from mid-upper 20's to around 30K. I know these things, we had one a couple years ago.
Does Subaru think they are Volvo or "gasp" Land Rover moving so far up market?!

Oh well, judge it on its own merits I suppose, but this is the last nail in the coffin. The old Subaru is dead. Enjoy "Toyobaru" - a worst of both brands gender blender. Old Arco
 
I do not understand the market position for this redesign. They should have just killed the Outback with the demise of the Legacy.
You have the popular and accommodating Forester "Giant Box of Air" and then the step up to the Ascent if you need more MORE.

The deal with the Outback? It was a capacious, good steering, roof load-able, smooth highway glider - a 'jacked' wagon that could be had out-the-door from mid-upper 20's to around 30K. I know these things, we had one a couple years ago.
Does Subaru think they are Volvo or "gasp" Land Rover moving so far up market?!

Oh well, judge it on its own merits I suppose, but this is the last nail in the coffin. The old Subaru is dead. Enjoy "Toyobaru" - a worst of both brands gender blender. Old Arco
The Forester can't tow like the Outback...why not? Weird
 
Kia K4. Yeah I know some will scoff, but that's a good little ride, especially for the price. We traveled a lot recently, and I randomly got a K4 for both trips. I drove nearly a thousand miles in the K4 during each trip. Its funky but has great road manners especially on the highway. It has way more electronics that I would have anticipated in an entry level car.

The doors are almost too big (long), its a bit of a stretch to reach out and close one once full open. I was OK but the wife had to reach far for her. The exterior styling is unconventional too. I guess it appeals to 20 somethings? The back passenger seating is huge for a small car. We installed two car seats for our two grandchildren, and it accommodated them with ease. And all of this for <$25K! Good job Kia.
 
Kia K4. Yeah I know some will scoff, but that's a good little ride, especially for the price. We traveled a lot recently, and I randomly got a K4 for both trips. I drove nearly a thousand miles in the K4 during each trip. Its funky but has great road manners especially on the highway. It has way more electronics that I would have anticipated in an entry level car.

The doors are almost too big (long), its a bit of a stretch to reach out and close one once full open. I was OK but the wife had to reach far for her. The exterior styling is unconventional too. I guess it appeals to 20 somethings? The back passenger seating is huge for a small car. We installed two car seats for our two grandchildren, and it accommodated them with ease. And all of this for <$25K! Good job Kia.
Funny the CRV doors are really long too if if you are a large adult...I was surprised..... my F350 didn't have that long of a swing
 
You can't beat a dealer loaner car for a test drive....I had several days to drive it on the
roads I'm on daily...

Unlike the Jeepster I'm seeing good deals.
So where are the deals. Just curios, not a buyer. I am buying old junk going forward. People drive like idiots. In RAV4 I get nothing but cut off. In Xterra people stay far away.
 
So where are the deals. Just curios, not a buyer. I am buying old junk going forward. People drive like idiots. In RAV4 I get nothing but cut off. In Xterra people stay far away.

When I had my pretty little white Jetta, the first few weeks I thought I had a target painted on it. Never been nearly run off the road so many times in a short span. I opted to "headlights on" all the time and it helped tremendously. Totally agree vehicle (and to some degree color) make a difference.
 
So where are the deals. Just curios, not a buyer. I am buying old junk going forward. People drive like idiots. In RAV4 I get nothing but cut off. In Xterra people stay far away.
As an example I am seeing big discounts on Hybrid Mavericks, Mitsubishi models with better yet 0% interest and the Subaru folks are i believe 1.9% at 48 months etc and I found the new Forster hybrids locally at $4 to $5k off...

Nice deals on F350s etc
CRV I can get the same $4k plus off a hybrid and get a $1200 loyalty offer...

It's out there if you look hard
 
When I had my pretty little white Jetta, the first few weeks I thought I had a target painted on it. Never been nearly run off the road so many times in a short span. I opted to "headlights on" all the time and it helped tremendously. Totally agree vehicle (and to some degree color) make a difference.
That Jetta is a steal
It has many Arteon bits for $24k
 
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