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Not bad for being cold and some idling...

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Thats great mileage Z. The gas pedal does move more than a centimeter you know.

I’ll be happy if my new to me 05 Escalade can return 12 mpg on my stop and go grind.
 
When your vehicle has an ugly feature why accent it???
The Rivian is awesome but that front end...yikes
Doug DeMuro is about the same.
His rating scale makes no sense.
He drives me nuts
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I like the bravery. Maybe it is better for lighting the road? Maybe cheaper to replace? Not the first to stack headlights. I wish cars had flat panes that could be replaced for $10 rather than $200 + for a curved one.

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I like the bravery. Maybe it is better for lighting the road? Maybe cheaper to replace? Not the first to stack headlights. I wish cars had flat panes that could be replaced for $10 rather than $200 + for a curved one.

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Weirdly I believe they are only the daytime running lights.
That front bar is cool as it lights up when you charge.
For what this vehicle can do especially the R1s I still like it so we agree.
 
Nice pick Zee09. When time comes to retire the A4 the Arteon may well be on the list. I'd have to go 4 motion though as the Audi is the go to when I have to go in the snow. I live at the top of a pretty decent hill and have zig zagged through multiple vehicles stranded/abandoned on the roads to my house, many 4x4 or AWD and never had a problem.
The Atlas Cross Sport has 4 motion but other than a couple 6 inch snows it really hasn't been tested.
 
Nice pick Zee09. When time comes to retire the A4 the Arteon may well be on the list. I'd have to go 4 motion though as the Audi is the go to when I have to go in the snow. I live at the top of a pretty decent hill and have zig zagged through multiple vehicles stranded/abandoned on the roads to my house, many 4x4 or AWD and never had a problem.
The Atlas Cross Sport has 4 motion but other than a couple 6 inch snows it really hasn't been tested.
I had a hard time finding one as I am in the same climate but I have a new AWD SUV...
But seriously I thought about it and unless you have a shallow road covering this thing sits too low as they plow in our driveway exits..

Thanks!!!!
 
I have had only one turbo car in many decades but several turbo trucks.

I don't even notice that the Arteon has one. Also the engine is silky smooth at idle and on the road.

Is the Jetta the same in this regard
@KCJeep
 
I'd probably get one, too.
But there isn't much difference in my eyes but a squared off back.
I sit all the way back and behind me is still a ton of room. These cars are deceiving. And the trunk- hatch is huge.
 
Very likely. I bought two VW sportwagens and a regal tourx brand new. Thought about the jaguar xf sportbrake but i dont want to lose $500 a day to depreciation.
Those Regals I missed...😥
 
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