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Nope, that's why they are affordable though I do think they are perceived as a wee bit more upscale than say a Ford.
I was behind this today KC

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That right there is a beautiful car and very quick. Even for an Alfa thought they seem to have a lot of problems.
Seem to be very hit or miss. Some are angels and some are devils. Same car, totally different owner experiences. If you take the 2017's and the QV's out of the mix the landscape looks much different but still some devils in the remainder.
 
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The engine in my VW is as slick as can be. I really love the car.
Plus after 5 months I have yet to see another in my travels. Thanks.
Arteon was wonderful, was convinced that would be my next ride but got taken by the opportunity of insane trade in and Jetta value. No regrets but that's not the direction I thought I was headed LOL.

Only car I think is better looking than the Arteon is the Giulia, by a slim margin. Nothing much else even close to those two IMO but beauty is in the eye of the buyer.
 
I would highly recommend a used grand marquis. Ride and space is great. The seats are nothing like a Taurus cubicle. Very roomy and open. around 25 mpg on highway speeding takes a hit but lower back highways I can get 28-29 doing around 60 mph.
 
Arteon was wonderful, was convinced that would be my next ride but got taken by the opportunity of insane trade in and Jetta value. No regrets but that's not the direction I thought I was headed LOL.

Only car I think is better looking than the Arteon is the Giulia, by a slim margin. Nothing much else even close to those two IMO but beauty is in the eye of the buyer.
I like the Jetta too and the price!
And the mpg...
 
A MB dealer had that exact color of AR on his lot used. Was there a long time, not a bad price, something like 10k miles on it. I was seeing if they had any hoopdies for sale. They get them in, nice ones, but because they are old or whatever they wholesale them out. But they will sell if you are there at the right time. So why would someone trade in the almost new AR for? Maybe they are just too rich to care?
You have heavy hitters on here like Auto Mechanic who just don't care about cost. The rich get richer...ya know.
 
They need to doll up the engine compartment a bit. I have noticed the last decade people in my area lost interest in the 50's cars.
I have never been a fan or 50's tin either, one generation before me I guess.
I like the honesty and cleanliness of the engine compartment. It needs a factory air silencer and to get that Cal Custom chrome junk out of there. I posted that car as it is a fairly low price for that car if its well sorted out.. I would want a three on the tree, Buicks in the 50's tend to have cast iron Hydramatics though.

I am happy you are loving the VeeDub ' Artie ' When this happens it's worth it weight in GOLD

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Harley riders love the Arteon..☺

I did a 15 mile run through the PA. back roads and had 6 harleys following me with 12 riders.

We were punching it on the curves and whenever possible... After that long run I had to turn off and they all gave me the bikers wave.... No not the bad one.

Never had this before...was fun...
 
Sad....
The Nissan dealer i boasted about on here that sold at MSRP or under
Just went to the dark side....
There are less cars now than ever on the lots. Far worse than 6 months ago.

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