Lesson learned Verizon requires WiFi calling enabled in the U.S. prior to departing the U.S to use WiFi calling outside the US.

Google Fi runs on the T-Mobile network in the U.S. Therefore, if your issues are with signal/bandwidth performance, I don't think you will see any significant difference. However, if the issues are administrative in nature (e.g., customer service, billing, etc.), Google Fi may/may not be better.

TMO has a big presence here but on a rare occasions texts will not send or receive even if it shows sent. The TMO Magenta military max plan I'm on went down to $85/month now but it was approaching $100 for a few months so I'd have to weigh the other benefits.
 
I have Google Voice for instances like this. Unfortunately, my bank doesn't allow virtual service for authentication codes so I have to have a proper cell service. :(
 
How do you like Fi so far? I'm on TMO but been having issues with them lately. Plus I pay extra for YT Premium and the extra cloud space, so all that rolled into $65/month is very enticing.

Love it. The phone deals are great, I haven't had any signal issues domestically and I've traveled to multiple foreign countries and it has worked without issue in every one of them.

Also, unlike other MVNOs, Google Fi gets the same network priority as T-Mobile postpaid.
 
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Yes, there are alternates.

My Wife, and professionals I deal with want to keep the same method of communications with me they have used for years. They want to dial my phone number. That is what I am paying Verizon a supplemental monthly fee to use.
I hear that, but sometimes workarounds are good to have
when you experience issues.

IIRC you can call people with whatsapp to their phone number..
 
How about FaceTime, google voice, Skype, Facebook messenger just a few
Add Viber to the list
A group of us from the US visited family and friends in Southeast Asia. We all used free Viber for ALL text messages, photos, video and phone calls using our regular cell phone numbers.

Viber uses your regular cell phone number to make and receive phone calls to other Viber users

It a common way people communicate overseas. They use data only plans in many places overseas or even just WiFi.
Viber uses the same phone numbers in your contact list

Everyone we know uses it overseas including international however we all installed the app on our cell phone and it works the same as a regular cell phone. You can call and text all your contacts using their regular phone numbers.

We do not use a paid version but you might need to let’s say to call a landline. I don’t think a non Viber user can call your regular phone number without using the app to do it so think that is a no go for you regarding business calls that your are concerned about

I do know family members communicate regularly around the world with phone calls using the free app
It works well and my wife prefers it over using our landline

We even set up a group chat to stay in touch with the group to text and send photos and video



Crud! It’s early AM going back to sleep and I see that I already replied to your thread but this does explain Viber better using data only plan for phone calls, texting and sending media free to others. You can even use a cell phone with no paid service as long as you have a WiFi connection.

I realize it may not fit your needs but will help others. Anyone that has their friends and family install the Viber app can communicate for free using their regular phone numbers which is phone calls, text, photos and video
 
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I have Google Voice for instances like this. Unfortunately, my bank doesn't allow virtual service for authentication codes so I have to have a proper cell service. :(
I am not sure which bank you have but authentication can be done via email and authenticator apps, therefore a cell service isn't necessary.

Also, banks have an outside-of-the-US number, which works without any charges, as I have done before.
 
I am not sure which bank you have but authentication can be done via email and authenticator apps, therefore a cell service isn't necessary.

Also, banks have an outside-of-the-US number, which works without any charges, as I have done before.
They send a text message with the code, no email or authenticator app.
 
SMS based authentication is insecure since criminals can easily take over your phone number long enough to receive a text via a "SIM swap." Banks that still use SMS should change to something else. Customers should insist on it.
 
I have Google Voice for instances like this. Unfortunately, my bank doesn't allow virtual service for authentication codes so I have to have a proper cell service. :(
Interesting, my bank phone app's do not require an authentication code for any of my banks. Using the app it is secure and encrypted.
I even logged in overseas last week using the banking app on a country specific foreign data only esim not my USA esim.
Maybe I am missing something here but I dont think so.
Only time I need a SMS code is when using a browser. This goes for any bank or investment accounts. I dont see any problem with that. You have your login, your password and then an SMS. I wouldnt change to something else, it would be inconvenient and the standard in the USA at least. I mean how much more security can one want?
 
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Interesting, my bank phone app's do not require an authentication code for any of my banks. Using the app it is secure and encrypted.
I even logged in overseas last week using the banking app on a country specific foreign data only esim not my USA esim.
Maybe I am missing something here but I dont think so.
Only time I need a SMS code is when using a browser. This goes for any bank or investment accounts. I dont see any problem with that. You have your login, your password and then an SMS. I wouldnt change to something else, it would be inconvenient and the standard in the USA at least. I mean how much more security can one want?

On a new phone (or resetting your phone), it will require the 2FA - like 'remember device' setting.
 
On a new phone (or resetting your phone), it will require the 2FA - like 'remember device' setting.
This is why I am trying to grasp what the concern is. I use an iPhone 13. I have multiple banking apps. I do not have to authorize anything every time I log in. I may have one time when first installing I dont know. Furthermore the data between the cell phone app and bank is encrypted.
So I am unsure what @Vil_Riker is discussing. (I am not debating just to be clear) That is why I am wondering if he is accessing using a web browser and not a banking app.


“If you download the mobile app from a secure store, that is just as safe as visiting a bank branch,” says Paul Benda, senior vice president for operational risk and cybersecurity at American Bankers Association."
 
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This is why I am trying to grasp what the concern is. I use an iPhone 13. I have multiple banking apps. I do not have to authorize anything every time I log in. I may have one time when first installing I dont know. Furthermore the data between the cell phone app and bank is encrypted.
So I am unsure what @Vil_Riker is discussing. (I am not debating just to be clear) That is why I am wondering if he is accessing using a web browser and not a banking app.


“If you download the mobile app from a secure store, that is just as safe as visiting a bank branch,” says Paul Benda, senior vice president for operational risk and cybersecurity at American Bankers Association."

Oh okay I see, I had to read everything a few times. Some banks may not have an option for their customers to use a banking or Authenticator app so the customers have to rely on being texted or called for a login code (usually small banks) or requires 2FA at every login. I can remove my phone from the remembered devices to use 2FA everytime I login.
 
Oh okay I see, I had to read everything a few times. Some banks may not have an option for their customers to use a banking or Authenticator app so the customers have to rely on being texted or called for a login code (usually small banks) or requires 2FA at every login. I can remove my phone from the remembered devices to use 2FA everytime I login.
Ah, that makes sense
 
People list out all sort of alternatives however using Verizon WiFi allows you to make a call as if in the us to people you regularly call. Older folks don’t have all the apps installed so easy to call my parents or in-laws .

The downside is if you use WiFi calling abroad it’s local call abroad can be long distance as if placed from US.
 
People list out all sort of alternatives however using Verizon WiFi allows you to make a call as if in the us to people you regularly call. Older folks don’t have all the apps installed so easy to call my parents or in-laws .

The downside is if you use WiFi calling abroad it’s local call abroad can be long distance as if placed from US.

I was on a cruise ship for a month. I had the lowest cost/slowest "Wi-Fi" package they had. I have T-Mobile. It's not long distance. I got regular "WiFi calls" in the middle of the North Atlantic and no additional charges.

I used Whats App on shore. Outgoing calls-open What's App and use like your phone icon. It's idiot proof. T-Mobile includes 5 GB data/free text while traveling in like 230 countries.

It's OUR RESPONSIBILITY to know your phone plan and what needs to be done before you leave this country.



I really don't understand what's so difficult here. To me-it just sounds like somebody didn't do their home work on how to make sure their phone is ready for travel.
 
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Thanks for the details.
For $10 ($10 / week), we got international service with Verizon.
That was 5.5 years ago.

What's it cost now with AI in the mix?
What does AI do for either the caller or recipient of the call?
Not sure what AI has to do with it, but current cost of TravelPass from Verizon is $12 per day, which is a ripoff.

I've been with Verizon for a very long time and don't ever recall it costing only $10/week, but maybe it depends on what plan you're on?
 
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