late model diesel pickups

[Silk]

Originally Posted By: hpb
It seems the poor reliability of, dare I say it, the American diesels is a big part of the problem.


I mentioned this in the Outlander thread, rather than get into a fight they just ignored my post. How come Mitsi's are reliable in the rest of the world? I agree with the Triton not being a contender in that video, but those old ones still had over 400nm, one of his criteria. Maybe you didn't get the higher torque ones in Aust? From an NZ perspective, the US utes are just too big for our roads, and you'd never be able to park them at the mall. Better off with a double cab Elf or Dyna.

 

[hpb]

Originally Posted By: Silk
Originally Posted By: hpb
It seems the poor reliability of, dare I say it, the American diesels is a big part of the problem.


I mentioned this in the Outlander thread, rather than get into a fight they just ignored my post. How come Mitsi's are reliable in the rest of the world? I agree with the Triton not being a contender in that video, but those old ones still had over 400nm, one of his criteria. Maybe you didn't get the higher torque ones in Aust?


The manual Triton was rated at 400nm, the auto at 350. He also said it had a 4 speed auto, but I thought they were 5 speed? And yes I noticed nobody took the bait regarding country of origin!

The more I read though, the more it's sounding like CAFE has killed the diesel engine in the US. Pity, they're missing out on some great vehicles...but with petrol as cheap as it is there, I doubt too many people are concerned!

 

[supton]

I very much liked my diesel car, maybe if I had gotten one year older (the VE rotary pump model) maybe I would have kept it. I just saw expensive repairs ahead, and it was time to leave. My current truck is a toy and would never get worked hard, and I had no desire to buy a worn out pre-DPF truck much less buy a DPF diesel (truck or car). Maybe someday in the (near) future that will all be fixed.

Beats me on the Mitsu reliability issue. They strike me as a small player here. I am kinda/sorta waiting for the Mirages to show up on the used market; I have no love for them but if I could get one on the cheap I'd rock it as the throwaway car it is. As a global car parts availability should be ok. Dunno on their other models though.

But my OCD tendancies would rather have my driveway with but one badge.

Too bad we can't have the Mirage with a 3 cylinder diesel. Different thread altogether!

 

[bdcardinal]

A lot of the issues that we see on the newer diesels, and the techs at work agreed with me, is due to poor maintenance. A lot of people push oil changes too far, running low quality fuel, and run questionable tunes/janky aftermarket parts. It is rather entertaining seeing first time diesel owners having meltdowns when they have to pay for an oil change.

 

[hatt]

Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
A lot of the issues that we see on the newer diesels, and the techs at work agreed with me, is due to poor maintenance. A lot of people push oil changes too far, running low quality fuel, and run questionable tunes/janky aftermarket parts. It is rather entertaining seeing first time diesel owners having meltdowns when they have to pay for an oil change.
Always easiest to blame owners. Where do you even get this low quality fuel? If Ford had it all figured out they would not have sold 3 different diesel designs over the last 8-9 years. The 6.7 looks to be pretty decent but it hasn't been out long enough to really see how the package does in the long term.

 

[Silk]

Foton is using Cummins engines, we don't get many into work, but the ones I've seen look well built and high spec for the money. Can the Chinese build a better US engine than the US? Only 2.7 for the ute, so missing out against the big boys....then again the new Triton is now down to 2.4, the Triton keeps getting smaller engines, with more torque.

 

[Shannow]

Silk, while I agree with the video that I posted, the Cummins Fotons (with ZF and Dana running gear) have me more than a little interested.

 

[Silk]

I've driven them and had them up on the hoist, and there is nothing you can pick holes in....apart from being plastic and modern like the rest of them. The new van that's a clone of the Hi Ace looks interesting too.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
A lot of the issues that we see on the newer diesels, and the techs at work agreed with me, is due to poor maintenance. A lot of people push oil changes too far, running low quality fuel, and run questionable tunes/janky aftermarket parts. It is rather entertaining seeing first time diesel owners having meltdowns when they have to pay for an oil change.


Pablum. One more time: three E450s, two F450s, all maintained per Ford's "severe service" schedule, none of them tuned (the vans being DEtuned)...five garage queens, two companies that will never buy another Ford diesel. One is going from what had been an all-Ford fleet to what will be, in a few years, a no-Ford fleet! (Last three trucks they bought were two Rams and a Hino.)

 

[CarbonSteel]

Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
No, I'm saying that either your MPG display is off or your math is wrong!
Well, I am saying that you do not know what you are talking about. I have calculated it more than once and it can EASILY obtain 20+ MPG unloaded. Another BITOG member (Overkill) has been in the truck and seen it too.

 

[hatt]

Best mpg isn't avg mpg. My F150 would do 21 on a level road driving 55.

 

[totegoat]

Originally Posted By: Donald
Does one of the three big auto companies (Dodge, Ford, Chevy/GMC) have a better made 3/4 ton diesel pickup than the others?


If you need a 2500, also look at 3500 SRW. Just a little more money for more payload. I would buy another 3500 SRW 6.7 Ram w/68RFE or Aisin trans if I needed a new Ram.

 

[CarbonSteel]

Originally Posted By: hatt
Best mpg isn't avg mpg. My F150 would do 21 on a level road driving 55.
It was average MPG, both from the information center and hand calculating. It has happened more than once so it was not a fluke. I previously posted about it with photos:

2015 PSD Initial MPG

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
Originally Posted By: hatt
Best mpg isn't avg mpg. My F150 would do 21 on a level road driving 55.
It was average MPG, both from the information center and hand calculating. It has happened more than once so it was not a fluke. I previously posted about it with photos:

2015 PSD Initial MPG


No one believes the mileage we routinely get here in fleet vans either.

Who cares? Certainly not the fellow getting GREAT fuel economy!