late model diesel pickups

[Stewart Fan]

Originally Posted By: ram_man
A dodge Cummins with a manual trans is the best combo you can get. I'd go dodge with out a doubt but the Chevys are ok. Not as strong as the dodge the front suspension on the dodge is far superior to the Chevy to.


The dual mass flywheel in the Rams are junk. They're quiet and smooth shifting for the dorks that want to play over the road trucker,but don't want to put down their latte. The DMF doesn't stand up to guys that actually use their truck for work.

The stock front suspension on the Rams are also junk. Unit bearings,ball joints,u-joints. Its all junk.

I had a '01 GM 2500HD. Then an '07 Ram 3500,and now an '11 2500HD again.

I haven't spent a penny on the supposedly inferior front suspension on either GM truck. The Ram was a constant drain on the wallet.

 

[Nick1994]

Originally Posted By: Farmer
Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I still don't see what's wrong with a gas truck at a fraction of the price?
That's for sure. If you don't have to have a diesel pickup to tow I see no reason to have one with all the junk the newer ones are laden with.


That's why you rip it all off like mine. I had 2000lb in the bed today, didn't really notice it.

1750lb of concrete powder and 250lb of tools in an aluminum chest.
As if a gas truck couldn't haul that

 

[Farmer]

Nick: I definitely understand that a gas truck would, but it wouldn't be quick at all. As my truck according to the book is only rated to haul 3000lb for payload. Anything over 1500lb is usually a workout for a gas truck with absolutely no get up and go.


Stewart: The front ends are pretty junky on these trucks. Most front end parts on my have been replaced, the others that I haven't are on their way out, and I only have 61K Miles on it.

 

[itguy08]

Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman

Yup... put your foot to the floor going 50mph on a diesel, then put your foot to the floor going 50mph with a gas engine. See which one has more guts. That's what I love about diesels. Gas engines just go to redline and don't really get moving. Diesels it's like [censored] I was only 3/4 of the way down.


That's be cause of the turbos. Try a gas turbo truck and you will get the same feeling.

 

[itguy08]

Originally Posted By: Farmer
Nick: I definitely understand that a gas truck would, but it wouldn't be quick at all. As my truck according to the book is only rated to haul 3000lb for payload. Anything over 1500lb is usually a workout for a gas truck with absolutely no get up and go.


I seriously doubt a 6.0L GM, Ecoboost 3.5, or a Ford 6.2, or Ford 6.8 V10 would have "no get up and go" hauling a ton. Their HP/TQ ratings are very good.

I've had around a ton in mine (1 cu yard of soil, which they said was about 1 ton) and it had no troubles in the get up and go department and would best the speed limit on one of the mountain roads around here. I was over payload by about 300 lbs (I've got 1800 and change) but other than the suspension you "didn't know it was there". MPG will suck but that's about it.

 

[supton]

Whichever one has more hp will win. The diesel will just use less fuel doing this race.

Horsepower per pound is where its at, for racing. Assuming trans/rear end & gear ratios to get the engine where it needs to be, and to keep it there.

OP: Where you looking for extended cab or crewcab? I forget from your previous threads what you were after. I noticed this last night while surfing CL:
http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/5503956941.html
and of course there's other ones out there.
http://nh.craigslist.org/ctd/5502002357.html
No affiliation with the ads above, neither are close to me, etc.

 

[ram_man]

Originally Posted By: Stewart Fan

A dodge Cummins with a manual trans is the best combo you can get. I'd go dodge with out a doubt but the Chevys are ok. Not as strong as the dodge the front suspension on the dodge is far superior to the Chevy to.


The dual mass flywheel in the Rams are junk. They're quiet and smooth shifting for the dorks that want to play over the road trucker,but don't want to put down their latte. The DMF doesn't stand up to guys that actually use their truck for work.

The stock front suspension on the Rams are also junk. Unit bearings,ball joints,u-joints. Its all junk.

I had a '01 GM 2500HD. Then an '07 Ram 3500,and now an '11 2500HD again.

I haven't spent a penny on the supposedly inferior front suspension on either GM truck. The Ram was a constant drain on the wallet.




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Chevys ifs front end is pretty weak when actually being used hard. The dodges is stronger by far also. I replace more ball joints on Chevy than anything but would say all the big 3 are bad about ball joints. I don't do anymore Suspension work on a dodge truck than ford or Chevy.

 

[hatt]

Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
Originally Posted By: clinebarger
Here we go with "You don't need a Diesel" rhetoric.....Why do that? He didn't ask if he should buy a Diesel or not. Once you own a Diesel 3/4 ton pick-up....It is hard to go back to gasoline.


Yup... put your foot to the floor going 50mph on a diesel, then put your foot to the floor going 50mph with a gas engine. See which one has more guts. That's what I love about diesels. Gas engines just go to redline and don't really get moving. Diesels it's like [censored] I was only 3/4 of the way down.
Towing how much? My 5.0 would probably smoke the tires doing that if you turned off all the traction control.

I want to know what all you guys were doing 20-30 years ago without 800ftlbs under the hood. I never remember anyone talking about how much of a dog their 454 was.

 

[SteveSRT8]

I recently hauled about a ton of wood flooring home in our RAM. Seemed to make everything even smoother riding. No problem with power with 395 HP and 410 foot pounds torque through 8 speeds and 3.91 posi gearing.
Those RAMS are just fine for the average user it seems. 30k miles of flawless performance!

And my old 09 Dmax 2500HD that is used for towing our 33 foot 5th wheel has almost 100k miles on it with ZERO front end issues. Those Weak GM front ends seem to have escaped our notice in fleet trucks also.

Can't imagine many trucks that go out every morning with their full rated load aboard. Yet our 3500 service vans do that regularly with zero front end work. 80k on our newest van with not even an alignment and perfect even tire wear at 9000+ pounds....

 

[Donald]

Originally Posted By: supton
Whichever one has more hp will win. The diesel will just use less fuel doing this race.

Horsepower per pound is where its at, for racing. Assuming trans/rear end & gear ratios to get the engine where it needs to be, and to keep it there.

OP: Where you looking for extended cab or crewcab? I forget from your previous threads what you were after. I noticed this last night while surfing CL:
http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/5503956941.html
and of course there's other ones out there.
http://nh.craigslist.org/ctd/5502002357.html
No affiliation with the ads above, neither are close to me, etc.


The ones in CL are either private seller or used car jockey selling an auction truck. The prices for a 10 yr old vehicle with over 100K miles are too high. Unless its from down south I will have rust issues. Its an easier sell to my wife to spend more $$ and get a truck that is a couple of years old, under 20K miles, still has warranty and I can treat with Carwell to prevent future rust.

And seriously, if I maintain it properly and treat with CarWell, this could be my last truck. (63 in July).

 

[roadrunner1]

The OP specifically asked for info on "late model" trucks and there has been several 5.9 common rail mentioned and even 7.3 6.0 6.4. Guys these are not late model offerings, these are ancient offerings as this is 2016!

I currently own a 2015 6.7 F350, with 32,000 mi. currently it hasn't had a single hiccup.
I really have no knowledge of the latest from Chevrolet/Duramax, but my dad recently bought a 2015 Ram/Cummins. It currently has approx 11,000 mi. and has had 3 trips back to the dealer, one for a crushed fuel fill pipe, and two alternators. He likes the truck but it seems FCA quality hasn't improved.

 

[Ramblejam]

Originally Posted By: Donald
And seriously, if I maintain it properly and treat with CarWell, this could be my last truck. (63 in July).


At the rate you're going, you'll be dead before a decision on what to buy is ever made.

Originally Posted By: Donald
The ones in CL are either private seller or used car jockey selling an auction truck. The prices for a 10 yr old vehicle with over 100K miles are too high. Unless its from down south I will have rust issues. Its an easier sell to my wife to spend more $$ and get a truck that is a couple of years old, under 20K miles, still has warranty and I can treat with Carwell to prevent future rust.


We've covered this ad nauseam.

You're unwilling to pay the price for a decent diesel. Stop looking at them.
Sell the Dodge. Sell the Jeep.
Buy a good four-door gas truck.
Start threads on engine oil and ATF for it.
Enjoy life.

 

[cptbarkey]

in contrast i've owned a couple rams, a 08 6.7 with 198k, no issues after it was deleted, and an 11 6.7 with 67k, no issues either. Yes Donald, buy your stupid truck. 16k posts and you havent made a decision yet? hurry up and post pictures.

 

[Donald]

Actually this is my first post where I am considering spending $30K on a used pickup.

And when I sell my Jeep, I won't be whining about the high copper & lead in a UOA.

 

[itguy08]

I notice in your sig you have one of these Diesel pickups - a 99 Ram. Why not just use that?

 

[Nick1994]

Originally Posted By: Farmer
Nick: I definitely understand that a gas truck would, but it wouldn't be quick at all. As my truck according to the book is only rated to haul 3000lb for payload. Anything over 1500lb is usually a workout for a gas truck with absolutely no get up and go.


Stewart: The front ends are pretty junky on these trucks. Most front end parts on my have been replaced, the others that I haven't are on their way out, and I only have 61K Miles on it.
So what do you do with all that extra time you have with a diesel pickup? That whole 25 seconds that you got to your destination, I'm sure it REALLY adds up lol!

 

[Donald]

Originally Posted By: itguy08
I notice in your sig you have one of these Diesel pickups - a 99 Ram. Why not just use that?


I would keep it if it was 4WD. Goal is to sell Jeep and pickup and get 4WD pickup.

 

[clinebarger]

Originally Posted By: hatt

Towing how much? My 5.0 would probably smoke the tires doing that if you turned off all the traction control.

I want to know what all you guys were doing 20-30 years ago without 800ftlbs under the hood. I never remember anyone talking about how much of a dog their 454 was.


The Coyote is a pretty impressive engine, But it will not break the tires loose at 50mph on dry pavement in a F150.

Towed travel trailers with 454's 'til the late 90's, While they would do the job.....They also wore out fast, Drank oil, & guzzled gas. Compared to a Turbo Diesel they were dogs when loaded down.

 

[DoubleWasp]

Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
Originally Posted By: clinebarger
Here we go with "You don't need a Diesel" rhetoric.....Why do that? He didn't ask if he should buy a Diesel or not. Once you own a Diesel 3/4 ton pick-up....It is hard to go back to gasoline.


Yup... put your foot to the floor going 50mph on a diesel, then put your foot to the floor going 50mph with a gas engine. See which one has more guts. That's what I love about diesels. Gas engines just go to redline and don't really get moving. Diesels it's like [censored] I was only 3/4 of the way down.
Towing how much? My 5.0 would probably smoke the tires doing that if you turned off all the traction control.

I want to know what all you guys were doing 20-30 years ago without 800ftlbs under the hood. I never remember anyone talking about how much of a dog their 454 was.


You must have never spoken to any 454 owners. That engine was a dog in general.

I've towed my 29' cruiser with my gas Ford V8 and my Cummins diesel. There isn't any sort of comparison at all.

I never watch the tach wind up to 4200 and stay there with my Ram.

Selecting a diesel is no more nonsense than selecting a high-package gas engine. Both are going to cost more money for preference.

 

[TiredTrucker]

Well, I have ideas about the pickup diesels that really doesn't mean much. I hate V diesels, be it a V6 or V8. I am strictly a inline diesel fan. But I got burned on a couple of Cummins ISX motors and will not allow any Cummins in any trucks I own. So, that means basically that I am out of the Class 2 and 3 diesel truck market. If I need diesel for some purpose, I will move up in class. So, my present 3/4 ton is a gasser. Meets all my needs quite well. But then, I really don't tow, I mostly need a 3/4 ton because no 1/2 ton will haul the loads I need to haul.