Lake Speed jr. Thick vs. Thin video.

[Patman]

I’ll still go with the thinner oil in my Honda all day long though. As I have mentioned here many times, I drive that car very gently and simply have no need for a higher HTHS oil. I am very confident that 0w20 in this car will get me to 500,000km and that thinner oil will get me the best gas mileage possible. I’m currently averaging 50 MPG over the last 500 miles.

For my Corvette, I know that running the thicker ESP 5w30 is a benefit since I like to go full throttle often. I rarely ever go full throttle in the Civic. Mostly under 25% throttle and the engine spends 99% of the time at 1800 rpm or less

 

[ka9mnx]

I drive my vehicles like the old man I am and still use 5w-40.

 

[nicholas]

I wonder if a high mos2 oil would help negate not prefilling the oil filter.

I wonder this because one of our engines has a horizontal cartridge oil filter....next to impossible to prefill.

I still hate the cartridge filters anyway they sit.

 

[nicholas]

They fill up like any other spin-on or filter housing.

Not the horizontal ones like on our engine....good luck prefilling that

 

[DirectRejection]

The obvious limiting factor here is the engine used.

Do it with a 4 cylinder, Lake.

 

[nicholas]

Cartridge filters can be loaded up with oil and it will help. Sometimes you have to think a little.

Think about prefilling a HORIZONTAL cartridge filter.......I'll skip the mess and use a thinker oil, which I do anyway.

Good luck prefilling that mate.......

Perhaps THINK before you throw judgement out at someone.

 

[PWMDMD]

Not the horizontal ones like on our engine....good luck prefilling that

There is no difference in how bad cartridge vs spin-ons filters pre-fill in the horizontal orientation - they both do not pre-fill all that well and that is exactly my point and what I said.

 

[kschachn]

The obvious limiting factor here is the engine used.

Do it with a 4 cylinder, Lake.

Why would that be?

 

[ctechbob]

Why would that be?

For one thing, a 'normal' motor with normal (narrow) steel rods in it wouldn't have shown such a loss from windage.

 

[DirectRejection]

Why would that be?

I will limit my response to saying it would be very interesting to see the comparative results with a typical 4 cylinder engine.

 

[Chumango]

That was my thought - how does this apply to a "normal" engine with tighter tolerances run under far less load and at much lower RPM? The video shows a specialized use case far removed from anything I will see.

 

[TiGeo]

Cartridge filters can be loaded up with oil and it will help. Sometimes you have to think a little.

Unless it's on the top of the engine...

 

[TiGeo]

In before someone complains about how LSJR looks/talks/everything...opps too late!

 

[ctechbob]

In before someone complains about how LSJR looks/talks/everything...opps too late!

You forgot

'makes money from YouTube'

 

[TiGeo]

You forgot

'makes money from YouTube'

Falls under "everything".

 

[Bailes1992]

Actually took the time to watch this last night and thought some of it was quite interesting and learned a small bit. I didn't know windage was such a huge issue for instance!

However, why wasn't this test done on a normal engine? He said himself, the engine doesn't have any kind of bypass system. How would that have affected the results? And was the small amount of water in the oil after 5 filter changes even such a big deal?

I also thought that UOA could only tell you about the condition of the lube, and shouldn't be used to discern wear?

 

[ctechbob]

However, why wasn't this test done on a normal engine? He said himself, the engine doesn't have any kind of bypass system. How would that have affected the results? And was the small amount of water in the oil after 5 filter changes even such a big deal?

Well, I can see why they used that particular engine since it has the in-cylinder pressure transducers and all. It probably takes a good bit of work (IE $$$$) to make that happen, so beggars can't be choosy.

I think the water was a big deal because they weren't entirely sure where it came from. There probably shouldn't have been ANY in there, so I think they were a bit taken aback by that. Maybe constantly opening a somewhat sealed system? Who knows.

 

[ZeeOSix]

I think the water was a big deal because they weren't entirely sure where it came from. There probably shouldn't have been ANY in there, so I think they were a bit taken aback by that. Maybe constantly opening a somewhat sealed system? Who knows.

I doubt there was a cooling system leak, and if so the UOA would have shown it if antifreeze was used. But maybe the cooling was supplied by plain water in the building, just a low pressure flow through the engine, not a closed system since this is a dyno setup. The other possible source is accumulated condensation inside the engine from blow-by combustion that never got entirely burned off due to low temperature oil. Think I saw the oil temp only got to around 165-170 F. Will have to rewatch to verify.

 

[nicholas]

There is no difference in how bad cartridge vs spin-ons filters pre-fill in the horizontal orientation - they both do not pre-fill all that well and that is exactly my point and what I said.

Yes there is.
A cartridge filter will not hold any oil horizontal.
A canister can hold 75% of its capacity by absorbing must of the oil in its element and being held by the inlet holes and anti drain back gasket.

Cartridge has none of those.

 

[SC Maintenance]

That's typical of a fast thinker. Professional politicians and quality news personalities have back and forth discussions down to a science. For the rest of us, we are not quite as polished.

I disagree actually. I know guys with a list of patents as long as your arm (that are actually used not just registered) that are very good listeners. In fact they compose there thoughts and answer very concisely.