Kohler substitute

[Sayjac]

I've used 3614 equivalent Napa Gold 1348 on a Kohler (no) Courage engine calling for the same Kohler # filter as posted HERE. I had no leaks and no issues using it. The biggest issue with using the auto app 3614 in place of the/an OPE filter is it's somewhat longer than the shorty 8172 so need to check space for the extra length. Where practicable (length) I'd 'always' choose the less expensive automotive application filter over the pricey OPE filter. As an aside currently running another 1348 on a JD Briggs engine which also calls for the shorter application, enough extra space.

 

[oil pan 4]

Lincoln 305G EFI
Kohler Command CH740 engine, air cooled
Air filter gets regular maintenance and the pre-filter I spray with Foam Filter Oil from an aerosol can. It couldn't be looked after any better.

Knowing the oil operating temperature becomes more important. If you're running 270f and higher oil temps you wan that 50 weight.

 

[BrendanC]

i spin 3614 sized fram endurance or carquest premiums on OPE. i like the CQ premium because of heavier coating and thicker can less likely to take damage.

 

[ripcord]

That may be true but OP part number transfers to 8172. I'v first hand experienced this since the 3614 is somewhat smaller outer diameter & the Oring gasket doesn't seal towards the outer edge of the filter housing like OEM filter does. This part number should stick with 8172.

The oil filter sealing flange on my Command is about a half inch wide allowing for a lot of filter diameter variation. No problem with sealing 3614's.

 

[fantastic]

The oil filter sealing flange on my Command is about a half inch wide allowing for a lot of filter diameter variation. No problem with sealing 3614's.

When I took the measurements of my Kohler 15.5 HP Command application it allowed less rubber Oring gasket on the flange. It still sealed just fine though but it bothered me enough & went to go looking for the proper crossover. I'm not saying it'll leak but it's not correct crossover. Thanks for adding your experience.

 

[nomas]

So what is the issue with the OEM filter ? I've been using them for 7 years . My engine is running flawlessly .

 

[ripcord]

So what is the issue with the OEM filter ? I've been using them for 7 years . My engine is running flawlessly .

Mainly the fact that I've got a stash of 3416 sized filters to use up. Automotive filters tend to be less expensive, too, than OPE branded ones.

 

[nomas]

Mainly the fact that I've got a stash of 3416 sized filters to use up. Automotive filters tend to be less expensive, too, than OPE branded ones.

But you're not the OP ..

 

[Lawnman23]

So what is the issue with the OEM filter ? I've been using them for 7 years . My engine is running flawlessly .

OEM/OPE-branded filters are nothing special, basic as they come, as in Fram Extra Guard orange can. The issue with them is the ridiculous cost that comes with them just so the manufacture can stamp their name on that filter.

If you don't mind overpaying for a basic filter, that's fine and your motor wont care. Most choose to run a far cheaper, far better and slightly larger automotive filter.

 

[53' Stude]

Mainly the fact that I've got a stash of 3416 sized filters to use up. Automotive filters tend to be less expensive, too, than OPE branded ones.

Never saw a 3416 filter. Think ya meant 3614

 

[nomas]

The OP never mentioned cost as an issue . He talked about bypass pressure .

 

[hondared]

The OP never mentioned cost as an issue . He talked about bypass pressure .

Exactly. I don't care if Joe runs a XX filter, and saves $2 each year doing so. I don't care. I just want to know if the different bypass pressure of the Amsoil EA15K53 (which is the crossover filter for my Kohler), will be an issue after 5000 engine hours?

OEM Filter bypass pressure rating is 8-11 psi.
Amsoil is 11-17 psi.

 

[BrendanC]

Exactly. I don't care if Joe runs a XX filter, and saves $2 each year doing so. I don't care. I just want to know if the different bypass pressure of the Amsoil EA15K53 (which is the crossover filter for my Kohler), will be an issue after 5000 engine hours?

OEM Filter bypass pressure rating is 8-11 psi.
Amsoil is 11-17 psi.

it will not be an issue. the amsoil/fram endurance/royal purple is leaps and bounds ahead of any OEM OPE filter minus the current leaf spring stamping.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Exactly. I don't care if Joe runs a XX filter, and saves $2 each year doing so. I don't care. I just want to know if the different bypass pressure of the Amsoil EA15K53 (which is the crossover filter for my Kohler), will be an issue after 5000 engine hours?

OEM Filter bypass pressure rating is 8-11 psi.
Amsoil is 11-17 psi.

You could find 10 different oil filters all specified for the same engine, and there will be differences in their bypass valve setting because the bypass setting is also dependent on the filter itself - ie, it's flow performance and holding capacity.

That OEM bypass setting is about as low as most filters go. Running a filter that's specified for that engine that has a higher bypass setting isn't anything to worry about, especially when it's only 3-6 PSI higher than the OEM filter.

 

[hondared]

Thanks Fellas, I'll continue using the Amsoil filter and Amsoil Small Engine Oil.

The welder has panels covering the engine, so I keep the panels closed in winter plus an insulated cover over the entire welder, and then in warmer months I leave the panels off to aid cooling. This means I usually maintain a 200F oil temp in winter and 230 in summer. (Measured with an IR Thermometer pointed at the filter()

 

[ZeeOSix]

^^^ Those are good oil temperatures.