Kohler substitute
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most people just go with a Fram 3416 equivalent filter.
my dad/brother just use Motorcraft FL920s on their kohler powered mowers.
my dad/brother just use Motorcraft FL920s on their kohler powered mowers.
So this Amsoil EA15K53 oil filter is the same size as the Kohler 12-050-01 Oil Filter? How much does this Amsoil oil filter cost?
https://www.oilfilter-crossreference.com/convert/KOHLER/12 050 01#google_vignette
I do not see your Amsoil Oil Filter on this list!
I’ve used the Motorcraft FL400 on my JD LT150 with a Kohler. Currently running a Purolator One because I didn’t see the FL400 at Menards.
Just my $0.02
Just my $0.02
The Media takes into account its bypass settings and should still work just fine. While it is a bit higher most small engine filters I've seen get changed well before they ever load up. I suppose really thick oil grade on a really cold day could limit bypass. Do you use synthetic multi-grade? Use in the extreme cold?
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Yep, XG3614 and MP3614 so far on mine …
fantastic is right, another alternative is the AC Deco PF2210
The higher bypass setting is fine. I wouldn't however use a filter with a lower bypass setting unless I know the media had less dP vs flow. A filter with a lower bypass setting most likely does have lower dP vs flow if the filter designer took that into account. In that case, you'd just have to trust the application call-out.
As already pointed out, the Fram cross reference is the PH8172. Its bypass setting is 8.5-12 PSI.
https://www.fram.com/fram-hd-oil-filter-spin-on-ph8172
@ZeeOSix , thanks for the info. So if cost wasn't a factor, what filter would you run in a Kohler engine that specifies the Kohler 12 050 01 as well it also specifies the Fram PH8172? Would you stick with one of those, or would you run the Amsoil EA15K53 with the different bypass? The engine is in a welding machine, and I weld pipelines in Canada. Very cold, and very hot weather. In winter, I run Amsoil Small Engine Oil 5W-30 with a 50-watt oil heater. In summer, I run Amsoil Small Engine 10W-40 if that matters.
I'm just struggling if the Amsoil filter will hurt the engine over many thousands of hours. Currently have 2600 hours on it.
I'm just struggling if the Amsoil filter will hurt the engine over many thousands of hours. Currently have 2600 hours on it.
^^ I know that John Deere just uses Champ labs made filter for one of my small engines for what it's worth. Not sure what Kohler uses but think they started advertising an option for longer intervals with Amsoil so they probably use one of their filters for that specd 300 hour run.
Any that are specified for that engine should work fine, and since you use an oil heater in the winter that should help keep filter from bypassing as much on cold starts. As mentioned, if the filter is specified for the engine then I wouldn't worry about the bypass setting as the filter maker should be considering the flow performance and holding capacity of the filter when setting the bypass valve setting.
Given this document, it's probably the EA15K53 filter supplied with the Kohler kit?
https://resources.kohler.com/power/kohler/enginesUS/pdf/300_hour_oil_data_sheet.pdf
https://resources.kohler.com/power/kohler/enginesUS/pdf/300_hour_oil_data_sheet.pdf
Good question, perhaps Kohler or Amsoil will tell you which filter is the extended version included in that kit?
The biggest fram that will fit, such as a tough guard or synthetic endurance.
What kind of welding machine?
Air cooled or liquid cooled?
A very good, very secure air filter is more important than what oil, what oil filter and how often you change them.
Landscapers, farmers and homeowners have undoubtedly logged many millions of hours on Kohler engines with 3614 size filters. Zero chance of damaging or accelerating wear by using one.
I''m running the larger Quaker State 3600 this run, last run I used an Affinia era Carquest Plus. The face velocity in these applications is very low compared to an automobile. It adds about half a quart circulating oil volume vs the spec Koehler filter. YMMV
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Air filter gets regular maintenance and the pre-filter I spray with Foam Filter Oil from an aerosol can. It couldn't be looked after any better.
That may be true but OP part number transfers to 8172. I'v first hand experienced this since the 3614 is somewhat smaller outer diameter & the Oring gasket doesn't seal towards the outer edge of the filter housing like OEM filter does. This part number should stick with 8172.
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