Kohler Oil Filter Alternatives?

[jeepman3071]

I like to make sure I get 3614 type filters with a quality silicone anti-drain back valve. I find that if I don't, since it might go weeks without being started, the oil will often drain from the filter back into the sump and read high the next time I use the mower. It can't be great for the motor to have to refill an oversized filter at every cold startup.

Which is why I caution those who want to put an even larger PH3600 sized filter on a small engine.

I can’t remember the YouTube channel, but the outdoor power equipment guy with bad teeth has a video of how the wrong filter can ruin a Kohler engine.

Yeah I saw that video, the issue was that specific Kohler engine has an odd oil filter set up with a stand pipe on the filter mount. The wrong filter will cause the standpipe to seat inside the filter and cut off any oil flow, ruining the engine.

 

[53' Stude]

I’d run a Wire backed endurance filter

 

[Chris142]

ph3614. look for the orange valve

 

[53' Stude]

I’d run a Wire backed endurance filter

 

[jeepman3071]

OP is there room for a slightly longer filter? If not an AC Delco PF2210 from Amazon will fit perfectly. If there is room for a slightly longer filter, a Fram PH3614 is a great replacement as well.

 

[Lawnman23]

I can’t remember the YouTube channel, but the outdoor power equipment guy with bad teeth has a video of how the wrong filter can ruin a Kohler engine.

 

[ripcord]

Ya'll know his teeth and hair are stage props, right? Kind of a weird shtick but it's a channel gimmick.

 

[Lawnman23]

I personally use a Fram TG3614 on my Kohler Command CV16S which has a vertical mount.

https://www.fram.com/fram-tough-guard-oil-filter-spin-on-tg3614

~$7 at Wally World.

 

[Lawnman23]

Ya'll know his teeth and hair are stage props, right? Kind of a weird shtick but it's a channel gimmick.

Yep.

He and his sons do actually have a shop that is his business.

https://www.greenindustrypros.com/m...all-small-engine-repair-and-youtube-sensation

 

[ZeeOSix]

Teryl Dactyl? He also has a video where he talks about how oil filters are really unnecessary on small engines.

On a broken in engine, if you change the oil very often then a filter (or filter efficiency) becomes less important. Only two ways to remove contaminated oil: 1) Filter it well, or 2) Dump the sump ... or do 1) + 2).

 

[Bellavita]

Ya'll know his teeth and hair are stage props, right? Kind of a weird shtick but it's a channel gimmick.

Hi Ripcord,
I'd say extremely weird. He's probably a wealth of knowledge on small engines but sadly it gets diminished with the shtick. Wish he'd just be himself.

 

[BrainThicknessVariation]

A Fram PH3614 or equivalent will work just fine.

Also Fram endurance 3614 from walmart is cheaper vs what Kohler wants, and its top of the line. Currently have one on the inlaw's Cub Cadet, probably wont change it for 2-3 years.

ph3614. look for the orange valve

OP is there room for a slightly longer filter? If not an AC Delco PF2210 from Amazon will fit perfectly. If there is room for a slightly longer filter, a Fram PH3614 is a great replacement as well.

I personally use a Fram TG3614 on my Kohler Command CV16S which has a vertical mount.

https://www.fram.com/fram-tough-guard-oil-filter-spin-on-tg3614

~$7 at Wally World.

Quoting everyone here that mentioned the PH3614. What If I go with the XG3614? Do you like the PH just because its the cheapest?

 

[jeepman3071]

Quoting everyone here that mentioned the PH3614. What If I go with the XG3614? Do you like the PH just because its the cheapest?

The PH is commonly used because it is plenty of filter for a small engine and a good price, but the XG3614 will fit just fine.

 

[Lawnman23]

Quoting everyone here that mentioned the PH3614. What If I go with the XG3614? Do you like the PH just because its the cheapest?

Ultra is overkill but would work fine. I went with the TG just because it’s one step above the PH, 99 vs 95% filtering efficiency.

As jeepman mentioned, the PH is more than enough for any small engine.

 

[ripcord]

Quoting everyone here that mentioned the PH3614. What If I go with the XG3614? Do you like the PH just because its the cheapest?

No reason not to use the XG line if you prefer it.

 

[BrainThicknessVariation]

The PH is commonly used because it is plenty of filter for a small engine and a good price, but the XG3614 will fit just fine.

Ultra is overkill but would work fine. I went with the TG just because it’s one step above the PH, 99 vs 95% filtering efficiency.

As jeepman mentioned, the PH is more than enough for any small engine.

No reason not to use the XG line if you prefer it.

I ordered an XG, a Purolator Boss and of course a Kohler (52-050-02-S) off amazon. I guess I'll decide when they get here, or keep them all. Once a year replacement so I figured might as well get their "top-end", assuming you get what you pay for.

 

[jeepman3071]

I ordered an XG, a Purolator Boss and of course a Kohler (52-050-02-S) off amazon. I guess I'll decide when they get here, or keep them all. Once a year replacement so I figured might as well get their "top-end", assuming you get what you pay for.

I have a Fram FE3614 on the Kawasaki FS481V on my Exmark mower. Way overkill, but I just wanted to use one and cut it open. The Endurance is definitely the heaviest filter I've held in that size.

 

[BrainThicknessVariation]

I have a Fram FE3614 on the Kawasaki FS481V on my Exmark mower. Way overkill, but I just wanted to use one and cut it open. The Endurance is definitely the heaviest filter I've held in that size.

I saw your post about the Endurance and couldn't find it on Amazon. I do see it now elsewhere. I'd have probably ordered that one instead! I guess there's still time.

 

[jeepman3071]

I saw your post about the Endurance and couldn't find it on Amazon. I do see it now elsewhere. I'd have probably ordered that one instead! I guess there's still time.

I didn't see it on Amazon either, I ended up ordering it from an eBay seller.

 

[BrainThicknessVariation]

I didn't see it on Amazon either, I ended up ordering it from an eBay seller.

Grr. Maybe I'll drive out to Wallyworld tomorrow.