Kids microscope for non $40 particle count

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Got my kid a cheap little digital microscope for Christmas. He doesn't seem real interested in it. But I am. First used it to see if there was a splinter in my knuckle, I found it, it was too small to see but it took up half the screen. Then I realized it's focusing on things much smaller than I figured it could.
I grabbed a wife's hair off her brush. Probably around around 100mu shows up on the screen as about 3mm wide. I can't get a reliable reading with my dial calipers on something so small as a hair.
I also have a cat that's a total fuzz ball. He's like a cotton ball with sharp claws and teeth. A quick Google search looks like he could easily have sub one thousands inch fur.
Probably buy a micrometer.
I don't have to quantify the sizes precisely but it'd be nice to have an idea say 1mm on the screen equals around 30mu. So if I see a bunch of 1mm bits floating on the screen from a car oil sample I'll know that's definitely bad.
Then there's carbon fiber. Carbon fibers are between 5 and 10mu. I have a roll of carbon fiber. I guess if it can see those clearly then I'll know I can get a particle count of some sort.
That will give me a zip code idea as to the particle sizes im looking at.

To get a reproducible count I'm thinking make a microscope slide with feet on it, say cut up one of my thinner feeler gauges, like a 4 thousands of an inch one so I'm always looking through the same depth of oil.

Here's an oil sample from changing the oil on my predator 79cc air compressor. Has 17hrs and this is the 4th oil change. I did 3 break in oil changes a warm up oil change after a few minutes of running, then again after about 20 minutes and again at 1 to 2hr.
This is at around 15hrs. I was changing over to 0w-30.
Figured a new small engine without an oil filter would have something in it to see.
None of these are bubbles, the bubbles look different from particles.
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Ideally in used pcmo oil I'll only see a few of the tiniest particles, maybe even nothing.
 
My parents bought me one when I was child and I loved it. I also had a telescope in grade school. They always bought educational things for me, including a Funk and Wagnall encyclopedia set and later on a full encyclopedia Britannia set and I read every page of both sets before sixth grade.
 
I wonder if there's a known standard you can use to calibrate your methods. Maybe get a drop of blood and do a white cell count? Only half joking.
 
Got my kid a cheap little digital microscope for Christmas. He doesn't seem real interested in it. But I am. First used it to see if there was a splinter in my knuckle, I found it, it was too small to see but it took up half the screen. Then I realized it's focusing on things much smaller than I figured it could.
I grabbed a wife's hair off her brush. Probably around around 100mu shows up on the screen as about 3mm wide. I can't get a reliable reading with my dial calipers on something so small as a hair.
I also have a cat that's a total fuzz ball. He's like a cotton ball with sharp claws and teeth. A quick Google search looks like he could easily have sub one thousands inch fur.
Probably buy a micrometer.
I don't have to quantify the sizes precisely but it'd be nice to have an idea say 1mm on the screen equals around 30mu. So if I see a bunch of 1mm bits floating on the screen from a car oil sample I'll know that's definitely bad.
Then there's carbon fiber. Carbon fibers are between 5 and 10mu. I have a roll of carbon fiber. I guess if it can see those clearly then I'll know I can get a particle count of some sort.
That will give me a zip code idea as to the particle sizes im looking at.

To get a reproducible count I'm thinking make a microscope slide with feet on it, say cut up one of my thinner feeler gauges, like a 4 thousands of an inch one so I'm always looking through the same depth of oil.

Here's an oil sample from changing the oil on my predator 79cc air compressor. Has 17hrs and this is the 4th oil change. I did 3 break in oil changes a warm up oil change after a few minutes of running, then again after about 20 minutes and again at 1 to 2hr.
This is at around 15hrs. I was changing over to 0w-30.
Figured a new small engine without an oil filter would have something in it to see.
None of these are bubbles, the bubbles look different from particles.
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Ideally in used pcmo oil I'll only see a few of the tiniest particles, maybe even nothing.
What was the model? My son (and myself) might really like that.
 
Years ago, I did use a medical microscope to see the debris suspended on a drop of oil from my engine dipstick. IIRC, oil had 7500 miles on it, I wanted to see how good a job my oil filter was doing. And also infer if it was time to change the oil if I saw lots of particles bigger than 15 microns. (There weren't any that I saw.) I was using OEM Honda filters.
 
Years ago, I did use a medical microscope to see the debris suspended on a drop of oil from my engine dipstick. IIRC, oil had 7500 miles on it, I wanted to see how good a job my oil filter was doing. And also infer if it was time to change the oil if I saw lots of particles bigger than 15 microns. (There weren't any that I saw.) I was using OEM Honda filters.
Yeah 10mu particles in good clean filtered vehicle oil should be few and far between.
That's why I looked at small engine oil form a little engine with no filter.
I pulled a dip stick sample from my truck. Completely different than the small engine.
There were between 0 and 3 small particles that appear to be around 10 microns or smaller in the field of view at any given time.
 
Fascinating, shocking and horrifying microscope discoveries so far.
The fascinating, ran oil through a 5 micron fuel filter and it didn't really apprer to clean it up that much. Will retest some more as is and retest again with a nano particle fuel filter eventually. How small are these particles I'm seeing?
The shocking.. . The best way to clean up reclaimed oil is dump it hot and let it sit on a shelf for a month, maybe less. I pulled a sample from one of my reclaim oil jugs and no particles found at all.
The horrifying, I pulled a zero hour sample, where the changed oil and filter and found a bunch of what can only be described as filter debris in the oil.
It wasn't lint free cloth material I already know what that looks like.
I'm going to rest this one because I don't even believe it. A few minutes later I pulled another sample after being left agast and it was mysteriously all gone.
 
There was a video on YT about using a vacuum cleaner to a new oil filter to suck out manufacturering debris. Fram had a lot!
 
Goop off my filter magnet.
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Control pic the lint free cloth looks like gauze.
The magnetic goop just goes down to powder size. No way the filter can catch this it's sub micron. Probably.
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It's just sludge.
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Thanks for the cool experiment idea to do with the kids. They are already there making an hour experience out of a 20 minute job and we love every second of it. This is a great idea.
 
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Well now I know why the 5 micron fuel filter didn't really do anything to my fresh outa the engine reclaim oil.
Most of what I'm seeing is less than 5 microns. Almost everything I'm see is only a few microns.
What I'm most impressed with is how well a "20 micron" oil filter with 7,000 miles on it cleans up the oil.
 
I'm thinking the box is already gone. When I turn it on it says "kids microscope" lol.
Do you have a pic of this thing or a model number/manufacturer on the bottom? Does it have an electronic screen that displays what you are looking at? I want to get one from my son.

Edit - Found this, if it’s as clear as the pics you’ve posted I’m ordering.




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Do you have a pic of this thing or a model number/manufacturer on the bottom? Does it have an electronic screen that displays what you are looking at? I want to get one from my son.

Edit - Found this, if it’s as clear as the pics you’ve posted I’m ordering.




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That's probably better than what I have and would be better suited to this kind of thing.
 
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