Kicking the hive....

[NissanFan]

So, was reading an article in an automotive engineering magazine about the VR38, or the new engine that Nissan Racing co-developed for the Nissan GT-R. At the end of the article, the last sentence thrown in after talking about the complex mix of a wet/dry sump properties for the oiling setup was something like this: Mobil 1 0W-40 is the oil Nissan specs exclusively. (or recommends) What say you?

Remember, this new setup is a twin turbo 3.8 V6.

 

[Nederlander75]

Originally Posted By: NissanFan

So, was reading an article in an automotive engineering magazine about the VR38, or the new engine that Nissan Racing co-developed for the Nissan GT-R. At the end of the article, the last sentence thrown in after talking about the complex mix of a wet/dry sump properties for the oiling setup was something like this: Mobil 1 0W-40 is the oil Nissan specs exclusively. (or recommends) What say you?

Given the history the M1 0w40 has of shearing and this engine being a twin turbo Id bet GC, or any other superior 30 weight would protect just as well. That being said Id run RLI 5w40. Thats a higher output V6 and a pricey one at that, so Id want the best protection I could find.

Thats what I say. But, despite running UOA and reading this stuff for 9 years now Im behind the curve set by the other experts here.

Remember, this new setup is a twin turbo 3.8 V6.

 

[Pablo]

Dude - the key word here is "magazine".

 

[ccs v2.0]

Engineering magazine or journal? Is there a link available? I'm guessing this is a typical XOM commercial "recommendation."

 

[simple_gifts]

Its a good, widely available oil, so no problem here; Should they be recommending Miller's XML?

 

[NissanFan]

Originally Posted By: Pablo
Dude - the key word here is "magazine".


Dude- Yes, yes, I realize this...just looking for thoughts, because in past threads some have contended that M1's vast factory fills are due to marketing hype predominantly and don't seem to take into account any testing done by the manufacturer. I will not claim to know the in's and out's of how they (manuf's) go about deciding what oil is going to be a factory fill. However, I would guess that Nissan would want an oil that could perform in an engine that was designed to target BMW M's, Corvettes, Porsche, etc. Now, perhaps XOM gets in on the ground floor by 'providing' lubricants for OEM testing and OEM's use it as a baseline? As I said before I would't know, but it did seem a little interesting that in the link it did say that they recommend it exclusively.

I will admit that I am currently a M1 user, getting ready to switch to HM version, but if I do not like what I am seeing, I won't hesitate to bounce it for something else. I haven't been in the synthetic game for very long so I'm still cutting my teeth on a lot of information.


Originally Posted By: ccs v2.0
Engineering magazine or journal? Is there a link available? I'm guessing this is a typical XOM commercial "recommendation."


The article came from Automotive Engineering International, which I believe is an SAE affiliated publication. I do not have a link as it was a hardcopy I was reading, but I will check the publication date if I can and get back to you if you are interested. There is an online version that you might be able to dig up information from. I haven't done much digging for it, was just there to verify I had the correct magazine name.

 

[Steve S]

People whose opinions are worth respecting speak highly of M1 0w/40.

 

[[RT] ProjUltraZ]

Originally Posted By: NissanFan
because in past threads some have contended that M1's vast factory fills are due to marketing hype predominantly and don't seem to take into account any testing done by the manufacturer.


they probably did test it, but maybe Mobil offered to give the manufacturers vast quantities of oil free, or paid them to use it in every new car. that's how these things work usually

 

[LTVibe]

Here's the ExxonMobil news release fron last week (2-22-08):

Nissan/Mobil 1

Quote:
FAIRFAX, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE2)--ExxonMobil today announced that Mobil 1 has been selected as the factory fill motor oil for the Nissan GT-R, the newly launched high performance vehicle featuring an all-new 3.8-litre twin turbo V6 "VR38" engine.

Nissan selected synthetic engine oil as the initial fill for the GT-R because of its friction reducing capabilities and high-temperature performance. Mobil 1, the world’s leading synthetic motor oil, was selected as the Nissan GT-R’s factory fill. Mobil 1 is also recommended for follow-on service fills.

The Nissan GT-R's new engine produces 480PS (353kW) at 6400rpm and maximum torque of 60kgm (588Nm) from 3200 to 5200rpm. Its new "VR38" engine features plasma-sprayed bores and a special twin-turbo exhaust manifold system. A secondary air management system enables the newly designed power plant to provide approximately 40kg/m of torque during ordinary low-rev driving, which gives an optimum air-fuel ratio for around-town efficiency and helps the Nissan GT-R meet ultra-low emission vehicle (U-LEV) standards in Japan.

Mobil 1 is recommended for high-performance turbo-charged, supercharged gasoline and multi-valve fuel injected engines found in high-performance vehicles, passenger cars, SUVs, light vans and trucks around the world.

Mobil 1 0W-40 provides a variety of performance benefits for the Nissan GT-R and its "VR38" engine, including outstanding engine wear protection, excellent oil flow characteristics and fuel economy. Mobil 1, with its patented SuperSyn technology, is uniquely designed to provide unsurpassed levels of performance, cleaning power and engine protection.

“The Nissan GT-R team successfully delivered a supercar that exemplifies high performance driving under virtually any condition,” said Lawrence Kearns, Global Automotive Marketing Manager, ExxonMobil Lubricants & Specialties. “We are happy to be a part of such an exciting chapter in automotive history, and pleased that Nissan has recognized Mobil 1 as the oil of choice to meet the high-temperature and friction demands of their new turbo engine.”

Mobil 1 technology has been selected as factory-fill for many other high performance engines, and is chosen by more OEMs than any other oil brand in the world.

Additional information about Mobil 1 and other ExxonMobil lubricants can be found at http://www.mobil1.com3.

ExxonMobil and Mobil 1 are trademarks of Exxon Mobil Corporation (NYSE:XOM) or one of its subsidiaries.

 

[Gilitar]

Great oil no doubt. I wonder how much Mobil 1 PAYS for Nissan to use it as factory fill?

 

[ccs v2.0]

I hear Buster coming to strainghten you out Gilitar and tell you that XOM does NOT pay Nissan to use their oils.

I wonder if they supply it free of charge in order to be able to put out new releases like the one above.