Kendall Oils ?
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Never used or seen a ton on those oils, myself.
It seems like Amsoil has plenty of testing that includes Kendall, as I recall, though.
It seems like Amsoil has plenty of testing that includes Kendall, as I recall, though.
I used the Blend when i took my car to Firestone for oil changes. In about 25,000 miles, it seems to work well, under the valve cover, it's still very clean.
The new GT-1 with Liquid Ti has yet to hit the shelves around here. Kendall is going to carry the Conoco Philips flag from what I see on their web site. The Phillips 66, 76, and Conoco brands have almost all been eliminated and Kendall is covering all blends (dino, syn blend, and syn)in all grades with the new Liquid Ti label. I have yet to see a VOA or UOA. C-P has made some really good oils in the past so I expect it to be at least pretty good. The GT-1 dino 20W50 with 1100 ppm ZDDP is aimed at classic, muscle, and performance cars and has caught my eye for those applications.
http://www.conocophillipslubricants.com/...ndall+Motor+Oil
http://www.conocophillipslubricants.com/...ndall+Motor+Oil
Pep Boys has a few Kendall lines including GT-1 synthetic with liquid titanium;
They just raised the price to $5.49 from $4.99. Pep Boys has run a few oil change specials this past year with GT-1
They just raised the price to $5.49 from $4.99. Pep Boys has run a few oil change specials this past year with GT-1
It's an "ok" oil not in the same league as Amsoil,Mobil,PP others.
Originally Posted By: daman
It's an "ok" oil not in the same league as Amsoil,Mobil,PP others.
Based on what?
It's an "ok" oil not in the same league as Amsoil,Mobil,PP others.
Based on what?
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: daman
It's an "ok" oil not in the same league as Amsoil,Mobil,PP others.
Based on what?
Based on MY...observations plus I'd have to explain to you, you been here long enough...think about it.
Originally Posted By: daman
It's an "ok" oil not in the same league as Amsoil,Mobil,PP others.
Based on what?
Based on MY...observations plus I'd have to explain to you, you been here long enough...think about it.
Originally Posted By: daman
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: daman
It's an "ok" oil not in the same league as Amsoil,Mobil,PP others.
Based on what?
Based on MY...observations plus I'd have to explain to you, you been here long enough...think about it.
Come on, explain it. If you simply have a personal preference against Kendall, that's fine, just say so.
However, if you are going to say that based on your observations they are not a top-tier product (e.g. Amsoil, Mobil, etc), then please explain how you arrived at your conclusion.
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: daman
It's an "ok" oil not in the same league as Amsoil,Mobil,PP others.
Based on what?
Based on MY...observations plus I'd have to explain to you, you been here long enough...think about it.
Come on, explain it. If you simply have a personal preference against Kendall, that's fine, just say so.
However, if you are going to say that based on your observations they are not a top-tier product (e.g. Amsoil, Mobil, etc), then please explain how you arrived at your conclusion.
I haven't been a member on here long but I've quickly come to the concusion that there are a lot of "armchair experts" who grace these threads 
I say it's best to do your own research and draw your own conclusions from that and what you see posted here .
I say it's best to do your own research and draw your own conclusions from that and what you see posted here .
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Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: daman
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: daman
It's an "ok" oil not in the same league as Amsoil,Mobil,PP others.
Based on what?
Based on MY...observations plus I'd have to explain to you, you been here long enough...think about it.
Come on, explain it. If you simply have a personal preference against Kendall, that's fine, just say so.
However, if you are going to say that based on your observations they are not a top-tier product (e.g. Amsoil, Mobil, etc), then please explain how you arrived at your conclusion.
I ran this oil years ago and was not impressed with it's cleaning ability oil consumption was up it seemed to thicken faster then others ran it in a few tractors also wasn't impressed at all.
so your going to tell me it's a same quality oil as Ams,M1,PP? i don't think so last time i looked it just didn't compare to what i wanted in a oil, viscosity Index,HTHS,specifications and approvals i just dint like it,thats MY...observations you seem to like it so run'er!!
Originally Posted By: daman
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: daman
It's an "ok" oil not in the same league as Amsoil,Mobil,PP others.
Based on what?
Based on MY...observations plus I'd have to explain to you, you been here long enough...think about it.
Come on, explain it. If you simply have a personal preference against Kendall, that's fine, just say so.
However, if you are going to say that based on your observations they are not a top-tier product (e.g. Amsoil, Mobil, etc), then please explain how you arrived at your conclusion.
I ran this oil years ago and was not impressed with it's cleaning ability oil consumption was up it seemed to thicken faster then others ran it in a few tractors also wasn't impressed at all.
so your going to tell me it's a same quality oil as Ams,M1,PP? i don't think so last time i looked it just didn't compare to what i wanted in a oil, viscosity Index,HTHS,specifications and approvals i just dint like it,thats MY...observations you seem to like it so run'er!!
Originally Posted By: daman
I ran this oil years ago and was not impressed with it's cleaning ability oil consumption was up it seemed to thicken faster then others ran it in a few tractors also wasn't impressed at all.
so your going to tell me it's a same quality oil as Ams,M1,PP? i don't think so last time i looked it just didn't compare to what i wanted in a oil, viscosity Index,HTHS,specifications and approvals i just dint like it,thats MY...observations you seem to like it so run'er!!
By several years ago, then you were probably using the API SL version prior to the reformulation.
It is hardly fair to judge a current oil based on the performance of its predecessors. As Molakule and others have said, there have been significant chances to formulation strategy in the last two years due to the new standards.
Kendall's oils are approved for the same specifications that ExxonMobil and Shell's products are approved for.
I ran this oil years ago and was not impressed with it's cleaning ability oil consumption was up it seemed to thicken faster then others ran it in a few tractors also wasn't impressed at all.
so your going to tell me it's a same quality oil as Ams,M1,PP? i don't think so last time i looked it just didn't compare to what i wanted in a oil, viscosity Index,HTHS,specifications and approvals i just dint like it,thats MY...observations you seem to like it so run'er!!
By several years ago, then you were probably using the API SL version prior to the reformulation.
It is hardly fair to judge a current oil based on the performance of its predecessors. As Molakule and others have said, there have been significant chances to formulation strategy in the last two years due to the new standards.
Kendall's oils are approved for the same specifications that ExxonMobil and Shell's products are approved for.
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: daman
I ran this oil years ago and was not impressed with it's cleaning ability oil consumption was up it seemed to thicken faster then others ran it in a few tractors also wasn't impressed at all.
so your going to tell me it's a same quality oil as Ams,M1,PP? i don't think so last time i looked it just didn't compare to what i wanted in a oil, viscosity Index,HTHS,specifications and approvals i just dint like it,thats MY...observations you seem to like it so run'er!!
By several years ago, then you were probably using the API SL version prior to the reformulation.
It is hardly fair to judge a current oil based on the performance of its predecessors. As Molakule and others have said, there have been significant chances to formulation strategy in the last two years due to the new standards.
Kendall's oils are approved for the same specifications that ExxonMobil and Shell's products are approved for.
Yes SL,CI...and that API isnt that old so...
Kendall's on the GM 6094M,GM 4718M Corvette spec sheet then? **edit** i is see it is on there (4718M)
Originally Posted By: daman
I ran this oil years ago and was not impressed with it's cleaning ability oil consumption was up it seemed to thicken faster then others ran it in a few tractors also wasn't impressed at all.
so your going to tell me it's a same quality oil as Ams,M1,PP? i don't think so last time i looked it just didn't compare to what i wanted in a oil, viscosity Index,HTHS,specifications and approvals i just dint like it,thats MY...observations you seem to like it so run'er!!
By several years ago, then you were probably using the API SL version prior to the reformulation.
It is hardly fair to judge a current oil based on the performance of its predecessors. As Molakule and others have said, there have been significant chances to formulation strategy in the last two years due to the new standards.
Kendall's oils are approved for the same specifications that ExxonMobil and Shell's products are approved for.
Yes SL,CI...and that API isnt that old so...
Kendall's on the GM 6094M,GM 4718M Corvette spec sheet then? **edit** i is see it is on there (4718M)
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Plus this oil is kind of unproven,how many UOA's are there here of this oil? not many i can find,the OP wanted opinions i gave him mine.
Originally Posted By: daman
Yes SL,CI...and that API isnt that old so...
Kendall's on the GM 6094M,GM 4718M Corvette spec sheet then?
SL is quite old, as SN/GF-5 is coming in a few months. You're talking about two generations ago.
Kendall's GT-1 Ultimate Synthetic 5w-30 is on the GM approval list for 4718M.
Their GT-1 Full Synthetic, GT-1 High-Performance Synthetic Blend and GT-1 Ultimate Synthetic products are all on the GM approval list for 6094M.
http://www.gm.com/corporate/responsibility/environment/maintenance/gm_approved_engine_oils.pdf
Originally Posted By: daman
Plus this oil is kind of unproven,how many UOA's are there here of this oil? not many i can find,the OP wanted opinions i gave him mine.
I would trust the extensive testing conducted by the additive manufacturer and/or GM before I trust one or two UOAs by the questionable labs that people often use.
Yes SL,CI...and that API isnt that old so...
Kendall's on the GM 6094M,GM 4718M Corvette spec sheet then?
SL is quite old, as SN/GF-5 is coming in a few months. You're talking about two generations ago.
Kendall's GT-1 Ultimate Synthetic 5w-30 is on the GM approval list for 4718M.
Their GT-1 Full Synthetic, GT-1 High-Performance Synthetic Blend and GT-1 Ultimate Synthetic products are all on the GM approval list for 6094M.
http://www.gm.com/corporate/responsibility/environment/maintenance/gm_approved_engine_oils.pdf
Originally Posted By: daman
Plus this oil is kind of unproven,how many UOA's are there here of this oil? not many i can find,the OP wanted opinions i gave him mine.
I would trust the extensive testing conducted by the additive manufacturer and/or GM before I trust one or two UOAs by the questionable labs that people often use.
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So, in some tractors in Bad Ax you found that Kendall does not measure up to Mobil 1??? Be still my heart!!!
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: daman
Yes SL,CI...and that API isnt that old so...
Kendall's on the GM 6094M,GM 4718M Corvette spec sheet then?
SL is quite old, as SN/GF-5 is coming in a few months. You're talking about two generations ago.
Kendall's GT-1 Ultimate Synthetic 5w-30 is on the GM approval list for 4718M.
Their GT-1 Full Synthetic, GT-1 High-Performance Synthetic Blend and GT-1 Ultimate Synthetic products are all on the GM approval list for 6094M.
http://www.gm.com/corporate/responsibility/environment/maintenance/gm_approved_engine_oils.pdf
Originally Posted By: daman
Plus this oil is kind of unproven,how many UOA's are there here of this oil? not many i can find,the OP wanted opinions i gave him mine.
I would trust the extensive testing conducted by the additive manufacturer and/or GM before I trust one or two UOAs by the questionable labs that people often use.
Oh come on now we need UOA's to prove a oil IS worthy,you know that.
Originally Posted By: ottotheclown
So, in some tractors in Bad Ax you found that Kendall does not measure up to Mobil 1??? Be still my heart!!!
Get it right it's Bax Axe
and your absolutely righ, im my findings it just did not,and when your running expensive equipment you don't [censored] around!!
Originally Posted By: daman
Yes SL,CI...and that API isnt that old so...
Kendall's on the GM 6094M,GM 4718M Corvette spec sheet then?
SL is quite old, as SN/GF-5 is coming in a few months. You're talking about two generations ago.
Kendall's GT-1 Ultimate Synthetic 5w-30 is on the GM approval list for 4718M.
Their GT-1 Full Synthetic, GT-1 High-Performance Synthetic Blend and GT-1 Ultimate Synthetic products are all on the GM approval list for 6094M.
http://www.gm.com/corporate/responsibility/environment/maintenance/gm_approved_engine_oils.pdf
Originally Posted By: daman
Plus this oil is kind of unproven,how many UOA's are there here of this oil? not many i can find,the OP wanted opinions i gave him mine.
I would trust the extensive testing conducted by the additive manufacturer and/or GM before I trust one or two UOAs by the questionable labs that people often use.
Oh come on now we need UOA's to prove a oil IS worthy,you know that.
Originally Posted By: ottotheclown
So, in some tractors in Bad Ax you found that Kendall does not measure up to Mobil 1??? Be still my heart!!!
Get it right it's Bax Axe
and your absolutely righ, im my findings it just did not,and when your running expensive equipment you don't [censored] around!!
Originally Posted By: daman
Oh come on now we need UOA's to prove a oil IS worthy,you know that.
I stopped believing in UOAs after speaking with OEM engineers who explained to me that an individual sample is of very little. Plus, the fact that OEMs will not accept UOAs as proof of engine issues sealed the deal for me-- individual UOAs are worthless.
Originally Posted By: daman
and your absolutely righ, im my findings it just did not,and when your running expensive equipment you don't [censored] around!!
That's fine, just put that as a disclaimer next time. It is important that we clearly distinguish between personal observations and opinions from qualified data.
Oh come on now we need UOA's to prove a oil IS worthy,you know that.
I stopped believing in UOAs after speaking with OEM engineers who explained to me that an individual sample is of very little. Plus, the fact that OEMs will not accept UOAs as proof of engine issues sealed the deal for me-- individual UOAs are worthless.
Originally Posted By: daman
and your absolutely righ, im my findings it just did not,and when your running expensive equipment you don't [censored] around!!
That's fine, just put that as a disclaimer next time. It is important that we clearly distinguish between personal observations and opinions from qualified data.
AXE, sorry!
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: daman
Oh come on now we need UOA's to prove a oil IS worthy,you know that.
I stopped believing in UOAs after speaking with OEM engineers who explained to me that an individual sample is of very little. Plus, the fact that OEMs will not accept UOAs as proof of engine issues sealed the deal for me-- individual UOAs are worthless.
Originally Posted By: daman
and your absolutely righ, im my findings it just did not,and when your running expensive equipment you don't [censored] around!!
That's fine, just put that as a disclaimer next time. It is important that we clearly distinguish between personal observations and opinions from qualified data.
How much more "qualified data" would one want over real life scenarios/world observations? i know i would over some pencil pusher in a lab!, i just wish i knew about UOA's then.
but anyway like i said OP wanted opinions and i gave him mine,nuff said for me.....
Originally Posted By: daman
Oh come on now we need UOA's to prove a oil IS worthy,you know that.
I stopped believing in UOAs after speaking with OEM engineers who explained to me that an individual sample is of very little. Plus, the fact that OEMs will not accept UOAs as proof of engine issues sealed the deal for me-- individual UOAs are worthless.
Originally Posted By: daman
and your absolutely righ, im my findings it just did not,and when your running expensive equipment you don't [censored] around!!
That's fine, just put that as a disclaimer next time. It is important that we clearly distinguish between personal observations and opinions from qualified data.
How much more "qualified data" would one want over real life scenarios/world observations? i know i would over some pencil pusher in a lab!, i just wish i knew about UOA's then.
but anyway like i said OP wanted opinions and i gave him mine,nuff said for me.....
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