Been called three times...all three times they learn I am an engineer, and instantly dismissed.
Jury Duty
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Any theories as to why? I am an engineer by education at least, not a PE.
$50 a day after 3 days.. you’re acting like that’s a big deal.
I’d rather work and receive my full wage.
Called 6 years ago for a grand jury. I'd gladly do it again.
I've no gripe with civic duty.
I feel the uniformity of resistance to such things disturbing.
I'm no sociologist but entire populations whining the same, shallow theme can't be good.
I'll skip any stories of that experience but I'll ask a statistically substantiated question at the end..
Recently got my second jury duty notice,
It was a hodge-podge of numbers featuring instructions to go to a website to enter all the numbers and wait for a response.
There was no continuity of web page design. I filled in all the jazz to the best of my ability.
Never heard from them again.
Seemed stupid to me as the first time was simple, clear and precise.
OK, now for the statistically substantiated question:
The Grand Jury I co-chaired did 83 cases. Over 10% were for one type (for lack of a better word) of crime.
Care to guess what crime?
>>play Final Jeopardy think music here Theft of prescription blanks from doctor's offices FTW.
You get hit with a theft charge.
If you succeed in procuring drugs with said forged prescriptions a fraud charge is included.
Don't forget the possession charge.
The standard MO is that some girl works in the doctor's office. She steals the pack of blanks. The boyfriend endeavors to get drugs.
The doctors keep track of their prescription supply and notify the police. The pharmacies get a hot sheet. It's all pretty automatic.
Now we know why paper prescriptions are all but extinct.
Pharmacist says: "Hey Bill, another script for 1/4 pound heroin pills from that pediatrician. 'Think it's legit?"
I've no gripe with civic duty.
I feel the uniformity of resistance to such things disturbing.
I'm no sociologist but entire populations whining the same, shallow theme can't be good.
I'll skip any stories of that experience but I'll ask a statistically substantiated question at the end..
Recently got my second jury duty notice,
It was a hodge-podge of numbers featuring instructions to go to a website to enter all the numbers and wait for a response.
There was no continuity of web page design. I filled in all the jazz to the best of my ability.
Never heard from them again.
Seemed stupid to me as the first time was simple, clear and precise.
OK, now for the statistically substantiated question:
The Grand Jury I co-chaired did 83 cases. Over 10% were for one type (for lack of a better word) of crime.
Care to guess what crime?
>>play Final Jeopardy think music here Theft of prescription blanks from doctor's offices FTW.
You get hit with a theft charge.
If you succeed in procuring drugs with said forged prescriptions a fraud charge is included.
Don't forget the possession charge.
The standard MO is that some girl works in the doctor's office. She steals the pack of blanks. The boyfriend endeavors to get drugs.
The doctors keep track of their prescription supply and notify the police. The pharmacies get a hot sheet. It's all pretty automatic.
Now we know why paper prescriptions are all but extinct.
Pharmacist says: "Hey Bill, another script for 1/4 pound heroin pills from that pediatrician. 'Think it's legit?"
They don't want smart, analytical types. The want the kind swayed by emotion. A defense, in a nutshell, is:
-- If you didn't do it, argue the facts.
-- If the facts don't help you, argue the law.
-- If that doesn't work, get emotional, bang the table.
Attributable to someone, I forget who.
So if anyone reading this winds up a juror, try to figure out which of the three defenses they're using.
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I just drove to town and the radio was nonstop with ambulance chasing lawyer advertisements …
This is getting worse all the time …
This is getting worse all the time …
It isn't. That was a joke. At least it's better than other states.
That was one of the cases I was on. It was a pretty slam dunk case, he hit a parked car and the cop said he was glassy eyed and reeked of alcohol. He was smart enough not to do a breathalyzer. Defense tried to raise the possibility that he was reaching for something which is why he crashed into the car, but there was no mention of that when talking to the cop. Anyway after we said guilty the judge told us that it was actually his 3rd time and he was looking at 6 months in jail which I guess was why he was fighting it.
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Sat on one for defamation of character - deliberations were a bit awkward - one guy kept bringing up his own injustice and “we need to send a strong message” crap - I finally stopped him saying no - they gave us a set of questions to respond to …
The guy pressing charges was a twin for Mr Haney - business model and all. He lost.
The guy pressing charges was a twin for Mr Haney - business model and all. He lost.
I dunno. I enjoyed my jury duty time. I put myself in the perspective of the plaintiff/defendant. How removed was I from being in their position?? Seeking justice? Deserved or otherwise? With a jury of my peers after extensive vetting? Slanted perhaps yes but arrived at a bit of give and take. Geez, put yourselves in a position seeking justice. A luck of the draw keeps all of us from lawyering up.
Jury duty is just that, a duty. I do not avoid it. One thing though, I will not tolerate being mistreated by bailiffs or others. We are there for almost no pay to do a duty. they must act with respect towards juries at all times.
Parking is free here if you use the one designated garage. And twenty years ago the $6 more than covered lunch. Too bad they don't update it with the times.
Around here if you don't show up a warrant will be issued and a deputy will be knocking on your door or come to your work and arrest you some time that day, they take it very serious here.
I have never been called because my wife works with the County Attorney and helps him with the prosecution. She takes care of the witnesses and victims (which a lot of times are one in the same) of the crime. She just got thru with a murder trial that lasted five days but she started on it about 3 months prior getting every thing lined up and the witnesses prepared. It was a pretty easy case, after the guy shot his girl friend he posted a video online admitting to what he did while holding up the gun he did it with. The cops never did find the gun.
I've received the letter twice. First time around, had to show up 3 times. Third time I actually got called up for voir dire and actually got placed on the jury. Domestic violence. It was educational, at times funny, but mostly kind of sad. The two had a history of beating up on each other, and he'd done 30 days in the county jail for beating up on her. She had a restraining order against him, but that didn't stop her from going to see him as soon as he got out from jail. He didn't want to see her at all, and he was drunk, passed out on his sister's couch when the plaintiff came calling. She was asked to leave, and somehow, at a location 20 miles away, just an hour later, she saw him at a party and he beat up on her again. Whole story seemed pretty fabricated and pretty much zero supporting evidence, but they decided to produce witnesses and evidence from the prior conviction, which seemed to confuse everyone. Nobody could answer the question of how he got himself to a party 20 miles away if he was passed out drunk just an hour before, the pictures of her injuries somehow got "lost", and the people who witnessed it somehow couldn't testify. No, not enough evidence.
Second time I got the letter, the defendant skipped town and they sent everyone home. Had to chuckle at the 19 year old who was in the jury pool, he seemed really excited to be called for the first time and was hoping to serve, and he was disappointed when they dismissed us. Be careful what you wish for there, sonny.
Second time I got the letter, the defendant skipped town and they sent everyone home. Had to chuckle at the 19 year old who was in the jury pool, he seemed really excited to be called for the first time and was hoping to serve, and he was disappointed when they dismissed us. Be careful what you wish for there, sonny.
My companies paid you full pay for up to a month (I forget exactly) for jury duty.
Once I was almost selected for a drunk driving accident trial. I told the court I was not a viable juror because I had 3 drunk driving convictions. The whole court gasped in horror. The just asked me if I was still drinking; I replied not for 15 years or whatever it was at that time. The court gasped even louder. The judge thanked and released me. The defendant looked at me in disbelief. I hope she's OK now.
I was on a jury for auto theft. The defendant followed a gal and her friend inside a Wal-Mart as they shopped. She put her car keys down for a minute and forgot about them. He took the keys and stole her beater minivan. Kept it for a few days, went to a park and partied down with some people he didn't even know. The gal saw her minivan and called the heat. When he was arrested the gal's groceries and baby stuff were still in the back seat. He tried to say she lent him the minivan cuz he was gonna renew the cloudy headlighs as he worked at a carwarsh. Of course they had never met... Wally-World had video of him driving off. Oops. We all felt bad for him because he obviously had a drinking problem.
Once I was almost selected for a drunk driving accident trial. I told the court I was not a viable juror because I had 3 drunk driving convictions. The whole court gasped in horror. The just asked me if I was still drinking; I replied not for 15 years or whatever it was at that time. The court gasped even louder. The judge thanked and released me. The defendant looked at me in disbelief. I hope she's OK now.
I was on a jury for auto theft. The defendant followed a gal and her friend inside a Wal-Mart as they shopped. She put her car keys down for a minute and forgot about them. He took the keys and stole her beater minivan. Kept it for a few days, went to a park and partied down with some people he didn't even know. The gal saw her minivan and called the heat. When he was arrested the gal's groceries and baby stuff were still in the back seat. He tried to say she lent him the minivan cuz he was gonna renew the cloudy headlighs as he worked at a carwarsh. Of course they had never met... Wally-World had video of him driving off. Oops. We all felt bad for him because he obviously had a drinking problem.
49 years on this earth and never selected for jury duty. I think it would be fun.
Same here, some of my employers didn't even need to see the summons. Even Walmart pays it's employees jury pay.
