Junk entire car over Scratched Battery ?

But I imagine the beancounters did the math, or found the average person didn't take enough advantage or just didn't buy.

That’s just it. PHEVs are engineering, cost, packaging and manufacturing nightmares for a company. You basically have to engineer a full ICE vehicle, plus a full EV powertrain, plus how they work together, and then try to shove that all in one vehicle.
 
That’s just it. PHEVs are engineering, cost, packaging and manufacturing nightmares for a company. You basically have to engineer a full ICE vehicle, plus a full EV powertrain, plus how they work together, and then try to shove that all in one vehicle.

But if they design a PHEV from the ground up instead of trying to shoehorn a PHEV system into an existing car, I think it would be great.

Until then...
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PHEV, great idea, I don’t want to be paying for a out of warranty rear main oil seal replacement though!

Back to the original topic. If insurance companies in the UK are having so many problems repairing vehicles with high voltage batteries then maybe they should get their hands in their pockets and pay a HVE like me to fix them but if they would rather write them off that’s fine.

I don’t see any reason why a normally repairable vehicle would be a write off just because it’s got a HV battery. Replace the casing if it’s damaged if you check some measured values first then you can get a very good idea what’s going on inside. Now if the car is bent like a banana then the cars probably being written off anyway.

Tesla excluded with their (in my opinion) idiotic structural battery pack that cannot be replace. You won’t ever catch me buying a car built like this.
 
PHEV, great idea, I don’t want to be paying for a out of warranty rear main oil seal replacement though!

Back to the original topic. If insurance companies in the UK are having so many problems repairing vehicles with high voltage batteries then maybe they should get their hands in their pockets and pay a HVE like me to fix them but if they would rather write them off that’s fine.

I don’t see any reason why a normally repairable vehicle would be a write off just because it’s got a HV battery. Replace the casing if it’s damaged if you check some measured values first then you can get a very good idea what’s going on inside. Now if the car is bent like a banana then the cars probably being written off anyway.

Tesla excluded with their (in my opinion) idiotic structural battery pack that cannot be replace. You won’t ever catch me buying a car built like this.
What's an HVE?
 
IMO the biggest problem of a long range plug in hybrid, is that this will cause a volatile demand of fuel.

Imagine most family use 1 gal of gas a month and plug in their cars every day, then suddenly uses 30 gal of gas on one trip during a long weekend drive. This leads to gas consumption jumping from 1/30 gal per day to 15 gal per day, a 450x jump.

Is our gasoline infrastructure stable for these 450x jump?
 
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The only way these EV’s will ever be truly competitive with ICE vehicles will be standardized battery cells. Can’t they make something like a”D”or “C” cell EV battery? You could have battery exchange stations on the highway. No need to wait for charging. Just exchange cells and go!
 
"JavierH19 said:
Aw yeah we're saving the planet now."

Serious question.
What is the intent and how is that a limited viewpoint If states are banning the sale of gasoline vehicles?
Tesla never set out to save the planet , they intended on making a viable EV and succeeded. The current events are being twisted into something else.
 
“”””alarmguy said:
"JavierH19 said:
Aw yeah we're saving the planet now."

Serious question.
What is the intent and how is that a limited viewpoint If states are banning the sale of gasoline vehicles?””””

Tesla never set out to save the planet , they intended on making a viable EV and succeeded. The current events are being twisted into something else.
I not sure why you included my question to you?
You didn’t answer it
 
IMO the biggest problem of a long range plug in hybrid, is that this will cause a volatile demand of fuel.

Imagine most family use 1 gal of gas a month and plug in their cars every day, then suddenly uses 30 gal of gas on one trip during a long weekend drive. This leads to gas consumption jumping from 1/30 gal per day to 15 gal per day, a 450x jump.

Is our gasoline infrastructure stable for these 450x jump?
No, of course not. We drop the amount of usage of fuel by that much and the oil industry will do what they've always done, drop production and continue to control prices. Before long the only thing in my house running on gasoline will be my old snow blower.

That would take a major event of many doing that and law of averages says that would be rare, but not impossible. At this point any price fluctuation or gasoline supply issues we have seen recently are all artificial and in many cases should be criminal. We're over a barrel(haha) with gasoline because between gasoline and ethanol there's no real alternative to running your car without modification or affecting warranty. Electric? Find an outlet and plug in if you have to. There's many sources that are used to produce electricity. My MacBook uses the same type of energy that my Tesla or any other electric car runs on. Is it perfect? No, but I do find it to be the better alternative for my family. The benefit of fueling anywhere means the limitation of speed of refueling, or finding the right station that does charge fast and that seems to only be improving. I hate going to the gas station in winter in my GTI. The amount of vehicles left running at the pump to stay warm while running into Kwik Trip at a busy time is enough for the fumes to knock you over.
 
The paradigm of modern cars is that any significant crash results in write-off of the car. The primary design objective for crash outcome is to prevent injury to the occupants. Also considering that most cars go through their life without a major crash, repairability features that increase the initial cost are not necessarily money-saving.

Is anyone going to be willing to certify that a crashed battery or battery component is safe to reuse? At the least that is going to need to be done by the manufacturer or some sort of certified rebuilding facility, not a general mechanic in some body shop.
had a friend get a used-junk yard Volt battery pack for his R.V..
burnt it to the ground ,and he was a electrical engineer /professer .
 
It wasn’t long ago where I saw a photo of a Corvette that was totaled. The driver struck something on the freeway that resulted in a gouge under the driver seat. The damage was about 3-1/2 inches in length, and literally looked like an impact from a claw hammer. According to the insurance adjuster it compromised the unibody and was totaled. 🤷‍♂️
 
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F.U.D.

A friend had a fairly new BMW diesel. Late at night drove over a rock in the highway. Ripped the crank pan open. An excellent engineer and motorhead he stopped immediately then saw the oil light. Stopped long before internal engine damage had a chance. Car was totaled.

If this was an EV, Reuters would be all over it pretending it was something new and unusual.
 
It wasn’t long ago where I saw a photo of a Corvette that was totaled. The driver struck something on the freeway that resulted in a gouge under the driver seat. The couch was about 3-1/2 inches in length, and literally looked like an impact from a claw hammer. According to the insurance adjuster it compromised the unibody and was totaled. 🤷‍♂️
But it wasn't an EV battery so it wasn't newsworthy.
 
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